ElkArte Community

Was thinking it may be a nice feature to have our members mention function include a @ moderator or @ admin to call them to a post, as a way to ask for assistance.  Such as a post needs to be split or moved or whatever, vs resorting to using the reporting a post.  Could use the same permissions as report post as well.

Now since I'm not really up on the @ functions, if we think this is a good idea, maybe @emanuele can help with whats needed  O:-)

If it can be turned off from administration. These can cause massive amounts of spam on bigger forums.

Yup .. thats why I indicated to use the report post permissions, it should be no more abusive than that.

I see this being hard to handle the conflicts. What if there is someone with the name admins or moderators?

I firmly disagree, it's basically a dupe of the already existing function, and can also cause flaming - example: a guy tags a mod/admin, and the other guy rages at him for that.

Also, what Joshua said.

Display name of admin or moderator ??? LOL what kind of a site are you running :P

Its also certainly not a duplicate function, thats like saying @ mentions is a duplicate of the PM system.

Anyway looks like there is no interest ,  so I'll write it up and keep it to myself  as well, cuz I can do just that ;)

I think staff reference is a good feature.

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I see this being hard to handle the conflicts. What if there is someone with the name admins or moderators?
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Admin is usually a reserved name and I think group names should be reserved user names (that's actually a feature request if it is not already like that :P).

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I firmly disagree, 
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I would really not like to see the "firmly disagree" stuff around here. Last time I got a "firmly disagree" I packed my stuff and helped Spuds making ElkArte what is now. (Just to give you the idea of what kind of environment I would avoid to copy, thanks.)

That said,
[quote author=Flavio93Zena link=msg=21065 date=1445030600]
it's basically a dupe of the already existing function, and can also cause flaming - example: a guy tags a mod/admin, and the other guy rages at him for that.

It's a dupe? Partially, but not entirely.
I'd like it quite a bit, I've seen many time things like @some random name to ask for a topic to be moved, or a topic split, etc.
It's much more natural than having to use the report button.

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If I posted in the wrong area could @moderator  please move it to the correct section? Thank you!

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I feel we have made it full circle, could @moderator  / @admin please lock/close this thread? Thank you.

PS: I like this idea :P

May be limited to premium members in busy forums ?

@emanuele fix your post, it's unreadable.
Btw, sorry but you can't force me to agree with something I strongly don't agree with. I have past experiences other than Elkarte and sm.org, and I know how people can actually (mis)behave, hence my statement. If you got it in a personal-ish way you misunderstood it.

That said, I am taking some time off, I'm in an extremely "fudge nuggets" period and that post didn't help either. Good night.
Gonna actually logout this time, never even tested that function... Yet.

EDIT: just realized I could even make it more clear. Congratz for doing Elkarte, I never questioned that, and it was a bit out of context IMHO. Anyway, even if I was some sort of Project Manager here and I "firmly disagreed" with something, but being alone at it, then I would still be against it, but let everyone to achieve it regardless.
And please do tag me when you reply, will miss a bunch of stuff during this offline period.

Perhaps just have mentions for usernames, and add functionality to mention a group of people as an add-on?

Personally, I feel this would be a good idea.
For one, it would save on a lot of "Reported" posts, that people have often used as way to get posts moved/deleted.
I've seen it at SM.org, and on my own forums, before. That was one reason, I actually had ideas, never done, to not allow post reporting, since it seemed to have gotten spammed by move/delete requests.

I dont like it. I think too many taggings can be a spam too; and it can be disturbing as well. I would suggest the limit option on how much tagging can be made by a person too, if this is not implemented yet. Besides, board moderator is normally named and can be seen at the board info. So tagging that name should be just fine for needy members.

Be that as it may... What's easier to deal with? A mention or a reported post?  ;)

I like this, at the very least as a mod (@mention groups might be cool, but that I could definitely see getting spammy). If built in as a feature, I'd hope it also accompanies a full permission system for @mentions, such as which membergroups can @mention, and which group members can be @mentioned and so forth, because special tags like @mod and @admin probably need to be opt-in by default to avoid spam concerns.

Well, you need to take into consideration what the mention system was built for and its intended purpose.

Moderation concerns (such as a post that infringes on the rules of the boards) should not mix with a social application where you want to bring attention to another member. They should be two separate things, while you can mention a moderator's name and they will see it under their mentions, as a moderator I would hate having moderation concerns clumped up together with actual mentions that are more worthwhile for me to read.

Notifying a group of the on-goings of a board doesn't need to be done through the mention system. It could be an alternative system built specifically for notifying members of a group of a thread. We already have the "Notify" feature, albeit all it does is send replies to the thread to your email address. It could be expanded where selecting a group to notify via email or an automated PM message. This functionality would be limited to those that have permission, such as thread owner, global moderators, moderators, and privileged groups.

I disagree. I've seen people use/reuse/misuse/abuse features for all sorts of things they were never intended to do. Giving site admins the power to build their sites as they wish, and not as the developer's wish, is one of the reasons that attracted me to this line of software (SMF->Elk). There's certainly things that developers encourage to be added as mods instead of core features, but I've seen them actively assist with the subsequent mod development, so it doesn't bother me.

I honestly don't see the problem with having a feature or mod that allows for this, especially if the site admin is able to enable/disable it at will. What a site admin uses a feature for is up to them, I've never seen this software take a stance as to what a site's rules and workings should be, and I don't believe for a second that it would start.

It's up to the Elk devs to make this a feature or not, but I truly hope that if they choose not, that someone makes it into a mod.

What are you disagreeing with?

Maybe a flag button to notify the moderators or admins? Sometimes I use it to report spammer in a forum, using Vanilla though.