Time for another heads-up that we did another upgrade of the site today, the last version was from mid June and this version is fresh as of today 8/30 - Now we're still fixing a few bugs, some real and some just a result of the upgrade process and my poor typing skills. As always you may need to do a hard refresh to clean out your browser cache
Please report everything you still find so we can get to doing what we do best, create bugs ... no no I mean fix things!
Looks good!
Two issues:
New icon seems to work inconsistently, for example this post didn't have one, but others do?
Search bar and "This Topic" "This Board" drop down have no space between them and over lap a bit.
Safari on Mac.
Interesting theme...but I feel an urge to change lots of things lol. :) I think though, I actually liked the former version better, but i am sure thats just a personal preference.
Looks great! Nothing that really jumps out at me screaming it doesn't belong. Some cosmetic things I may want to change, but nothing that I think couldn't be great for default. Well done guys!
The theme looks good but a little overwhelming. Maybe I'll get used to it.
The Stats template seems to be buggy. There is a bug with quoting to the full editor; it's still looking for smf_scripturl I guess. I don't seem to be able to find smileys too. They seem to be back now. There is the "this is this" text at the bottom of Display template; some kind of debugging code maybe. Page indexes are lone numbers; they need something like "Pages:" in front of them. I also have the quick search bar plus drop down issue and I'm running Chrome on Mac.
YAY! :D
True...at first it worked and now it didn't... >:-(
(auto) save of drafts in quick reply has some issues, it says: ": just now" ($txt missing?)
Clicking "preview" empties out the textarea (have to verify that one, I'm always fighting with quick reply and preview lol). (as expected :P)
The theme change is somewhat dramatic and we figured it would cause some discussion :D ... I think the item that stands out is the new menu compaction, there are +/- in that respect for me as well, but I don't think we are done with that just yet
Thanks for the bug reports, I've chase down a few of the simple ones and made some site updates while the PR is pending
Yups the txt string is not found in the xml response ... easiest is to move that string to index vs a loadlanguage I think
Found two issues in there and made the updates (missing global and html error in the template)
LOL .. all these weeks of looking at the theme and I never noticed that, its gone now
Thats not new with this rendition of the theme, those have been gone for some time ... I
think they may have been removed in 2.1 as well but don't recall. I believe the general feeling was the pages text was redundant, Emanuele or Ant are the best to say for sure on that one.
Have not looked for this yet, seems fine in FF but thats a different engine
If there are any of those it would mean I missed updating a file O:-)
Off to look at them logs !
Great to see it going "live", was about time for some tests.. Thank you, Spuds. :)
Found a small bug (Polls layout) and made a PR;
https://github.com/elkarte/Elkarte/pull/792
It is just me or the header bar of the "attachments and other options" is gone? O:-)
yep, it's gone ... dunno if it's intended or not ..
I noticed it was gone as well ... also not sure if that was the intention of just an error from all of the work that was done. At a minimum I would think the form buttons (post/preview/etc) need to be moved up above the now exposed options so I don't have to scroll up and down to post :P
The site has been updated with the fixes on github ... thanks for those fixes and reports !
Have you received my pm, Spuds? (I'll write a few points on topic to avoid the spam radar, lol)
I seem to be able to quote my own pms but not other members'. I'm using conversation view and I get the smf_scripturl undefined JavaScript error. (now when I tried to quote a post from this topic I got the same result and error)
Also the bug which is related to clicking on "new" image not taking you to the first unread post in a topic is quite annoying. (basically the #new anchor not working properly) I guess you are aware of it.
I think the change in the menu is in the right direction but needs some work. It just feels a little disorienting after getting used to SMF style. I like the up/down links on the right the most; they used to be quite disruptive before but now they blend perfectly with the background, still being noticeable when you need them.
I think it looks a lot better with something telling what those lone numbers are. It could actually mean something when there are more than a single page but a single number, "1", there, alone looks very strange and out of place. (at first I thought it was a bug) Maybe hide it when there are no multiple pages? (as a side note, it looks a lot worse in SMF 2.1)
There seems to be a little problem left there. (see the options with 0% in the attachment) I think you could fix that by echoing poll bar divs for 0% options too, but with 0 width.
I don't remember with only one page what we wanted to do, what I did for createList is not to show anything when there is only one page (and I think I started doing it on other lists too, but not in a consistent way (as usual O:-))).
The "Pages :" was probably removed because when there is more than one there is already the "previous page" and "next page" so is more or less obvious what the numbers are for I *think*, not sure though.
This should be fixed now, that was a file that I forgot to update on the site :-[
Noticed that as well, and it very annoying ... have not trakced down why its not adding in the div id yet
Agree this version of them is much better, seems less in your face. I'm sure the menu will go through some more changes O:-)
Ah yes, thanks for pointing that out.
Norv's fault:
https://github.com/elkarte/Elkarte/blob/master/sources/Request.php#L252
:P
Sweet !
ETA: I did the quick fix on this site while we decide how we want to handle this.
YAY! :D
It may make sense to move all the work done with $_REQUEST['start'] in Display.controller to Request I think.
I think you are correct, looks like display.controller really makes a mess of that variable ... looks like it uses as a flag at first then resets its value again based on the flag value it sets it to etc ... (and something in there does not seem right either).
Are you volunteering O:-)
Site isn't working on mobile/iOS, it splits the page as left side is all the content, news bar is the right side.
Pics to follow :)
/me looks around in the hope to see a TestMonkey that wants to take care of it... :P
You could open it as an issue and assign it ;D
Is probably a boo-boo (that's "f@#$ up in normal, family-friendly English).
Post form buttons are wonky too. Some details may have been lost in translation methinks. Hey ho. It's all fixable.
I always feel like that about your themes. :D
The former version was just a "five minute job" to get something that was in the ballpark (not SMF, not too putrid, basic colours sorted) or at least the ballpark's general vicinity as long as you had reliable transport and satnav. I was never really happy with it as it had a very "been there, done that" feel to it. This one rocketh muchly, IMO, although after not looking at it for a couple of weeks I may look at some details differently now (quite apart from remaining bugz n stuff).
ETA: Just spotted one such detail while fixing typos in this post. IMO the quick edit Save/Cancel buttons are uncomfortably close to the usual quickbuttons list. Still quite usable, but not quite natural in feel. I like buttons to be no-brainers, so I don't really have to aim at them when I'm in a hurry. Will give it some thought.
Hi, I just to want to report something related to some problem with quoted text in recent posts. The text in quoted text is incomplete and nothing changed when I try to resize the post. 2 related screenshots attached.
By default in the recent posts is the post not fully shown? And I just realized it today there is the resize icon/mark/button, but can you add a clearer mark to indicate this? Like read more or something? The symbol is too faint for me (at least) to be recognized.
The RSS Feed is similar too, can it be modified later if the post is in full or partial?
Thanks!
Edited : Found the quick reply! :P
Yeah that was just an idea I had and was trying out. It was an attempt to make the recent posts pages less overwhelming. The plan was to make them easier to skim for stuff you might be interested in, and avoiding the ZOMFG-wallz-of-text effect as much as possible. It may or may not make it through beta. Dunno yet. Will depend on how people feel about it, and what can be done with it without the code getting ricidulous. :)
It sounds like a very clever idea; I like it! It would be nice to have it if it can be implemented in a more user friendly way.
I'd only had the idea and played with it for an hour or whatever, so I'm sure implementation could be improved. I threw it in because "Hey, it's alpha". Figured rather than talking about it, just put it in and see how the punters react.
Also the new PM indicators are currently borked. They don't go away after you read your PM's. Bugz. Love 'em :P
/me is blown away.
Awesome upgrade, glad to see the new theme in play.
Yeah I love it too. One of my best ever. The footer is a stroke of genius if I do say so myself (and obviously I do :D). Sheer elegance. Live and learn. :)
Oh and the new PM indicators seem to be working correctly now.
Where's the jump to top/bottom links? Am I blind and just missing them?
Right side of the screen, about half way up (or half way down if you like). Roughly where you'd expect a scroll bar to be. Since some people were grumbling about the old ones taking over their lives and messing with their heads, I made the new ones less obtrusive. ;D
Hopefully the scrolling speed improves, too. On Firefox, it's terribly jittery.
Smooth as silk on my Firefox, with W7 OS. The speed is really slow on very short pages, because it's just timed for a set period top to bottom. So, if you don't need to go far it'll appear to be slow. You can just flick the mouse wheel or click the scrollbar though, so I don't think it's a problem.
The jitter is there even when just scrolling with the mousewheel, although a bit less. I suspect its the js of those arrows thats interfering since the effect is on all pages... compare to the main SMF site wheres no jitter whatsover anywhere.
Is that effect really needed? Why can't the arrows just take you straight up?
What combo are you running? Like I said, it's smooth as silk for me. No jitter at all. So I can't compare it with anything else because AFAICT there's nothing to compare.
Are you running W7 with FF or some other OS? First rule of bug reports: give sufficient information. :D
Of course it's not "really needed". Most things aren't. In terms of function we could just echo raw HTML and it would work. However, personally I find the scroll effect much more pleasant than a straight jump.
Hey, its your a baby.. :) if it doesn't work, then you should investigate. I am on a decent combo, and like I said its not on main SMF site.
"not needed" is meant as : not needed when its noticeable sideffects. IMO an effect is only good when its doing what it should without any hiccups, something I try to keep with using Mootools too.(I assume the effect is JQuery-based) . For example, I wanted a slide effect on a big portion as default, but since it was sluggish I did not use it, but figured out another way for making it more alive instead.
Thats why i suggest: a straight jump - at least until a better scroll is found.
EDIT: if you want details though: win7 Pro, 1080p screen, 64bit Quad 3.9Ghz, 8Gb mem, 2gb Nvidia card...using Chrome or FF latest(worse on FF).
Smooth for me as well ... win7/FF23 i7 laptop without a fancy zombie killing video card :P
Ok, so that's basically the same rig I'm running, and FF is totally smooth for me. Only difference is I have a 3.3 gig CPU, which if anything should make it worse. So I'm not sure how I could investigate this, since I can't reproduce it even though we're running the same gear. The only thing I can think of is maybe it has something to do with FF or Chrome add-ons, if you're running any of those.
I don't have any problem with the scrolling. Using Firefox 23.0.1.
My specifications
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
CPU: Intel Atom N2600 @ 1.60GHz Cedarview 32nm Technology
RAM: 2.00GB
Screen: Digital Flat Panel (1280x1024 60Hz) (1024x600@60Hz)
Graphic: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series (Acer Incorporated [ALI])
Well, there is a difference. :) Its meant as a notabene though, what you do with it is entirely up to you.
EDIT: I turned off Logitech smooth scrolling extension in my Chrome, and the speed is then the same . I suspect the javascript of that extension is indeed interfering with the js in the page - since they touch upon the same routines for scrolling the page.
Not a bug for me anymore, then.
I like that. But perhaps a slightly transparent arrow to display to the user to let them know what that graphic is used for. Would have probably never noticed it, had you not pointed it out. The highlight is fine, just need an indicator perhaps.
I personally don't care for the page scroll either. But I'll just change it if I don't like it. :D
Ok, that gives a good indication of what the problem is. I run some Logitech bits but I never bother installing any of the stuff they try to get me to install. I just plug-n-play their keyboard and mouse and it all works. Last time I tried to enable the stuff they reckon it needs, things went down the crapper. :D
@IchBin: can do arrows. They're shown on hover anyway, so having them the rest of the time is even easier.
Attached :)
Haven't looked at mobile stuff yet. I thought we were having a seperate mobile theme for that.
Thats the intention
Since we had a good flurry of commits over the last week, I updated the site to the 08SEP repo
Did we lose the $_REQUEST['start'] fix? ???
I thought it was committed...
Hey have there been an db changes over the last couple of weeks? Just need to know if the upgrade script is necessary when I sort out my local.
I'm pretty sure I got all the files, but the new does not seem to be working ... I'll double check
Last couple of weeks ... I don't think so.
Oh crap wait ... thats one I did just on the site, I think we were going to wait for Norv to comment on that one ... I'll make the patch now :P
ETA: Quick fix applied ... should be better now :P
Oh right!
It was still pending. O:-)
I went hunting elkFadeScroller on Github to see if I could sort it out for the iPhone, but must be doing something dumb, because I can't seem to find the css to go with the id. Any tips :P?
I can see one reference in index_light.css, though I don't know if it is the correct place to change it...
/me thinks Ant should know.
Will have to take another look. Can't remember offhand. :)
ETA: Looks like that's the only place I defined it. Really, that should be split into dimensioning and eye candy too. Will make a note of it.
Thing is though, if we're having a seperate mobile theme why worry about what it looks like on iPhone? The CSS is going to be complex enough as it is without adding extra complications we don't need. My 2c is that the responsive stuffz should only be as responsive as is really required.
http://www.elkarte.net/index.php?topic=564.msg4131#msg4131
Question is: Are we still going with a full featured mobile theme?
Certainly doesn't have to be a worry, however its a pretty big blocker to the default theme working on iPhone/iPad. The rest all works :)
Breaks the window layout in Webkit too though depending on how small you shrink the window.
TE just made a PR that will fix up the responsive stuff for this theme ... With all the recent changes it simply had not kept up with hiding the right items so it "fits" .... Once its merged in to the core I'll update the site so it can be tested further :)
Yup. It should just need a display:block or something to get them to stack on small screens. It still needs some tweaking even on desktop. I'm not happy with the way the guest form is all squidged, especially when OpenID is there too.
And site updated
Fairly impressive stuff :)
Despite not being designed as such, it's one of the better mobile interfaces for a forum.
Well that's certainly not a bad thing. If IchBin doesn't have the time or motivation to finish up the mobile theme, and if nobody else is into it, we can probably make this one do the job without too much trouble (providing we're pretty hardass about which grotty old mobiles we can be bothered supporting).
yay, thanks. I've spend some hours to make it more mobile friendly.. however, it's still WIP and needs to be optimized here and there.. At least we have a usable interface for now ;)
How far along was the mobile theme?
The repo is https://github.com/elkarte/themes/tree/master/themes/mobile
was last updated about 5 months ago, so it's probably missing the template layer changes and lot's of other stuff..
At the time, I would have said it was 75-80% done. This changes depending on my mood though. :D