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Title: Stress relief
Post by: badmonkey on September 24, 2017, 10:17:46 pm
Connecting back to nature can have that effect. Hope you may as well!
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Post by: badmonkey on September 25, 2017, 09:56:33 am
Cool! How did you come to have a pet deer? Years ago, camping with a group, a fawn walked right into our camp. Apparently something happened to it's mother. They are far more intelligent than we credit them.
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Post by: Jorin on September 28, 2017, 01:11:32 am
That's amazing. You surely have a big heart! Sounds like a great, happy life you're living (and too the animals you take care of).  :)
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Post by: badmonkey on September 28, 2017, 08:36:11 am
Quote from: derived – Keeps my kids from having to grow up in the big city woes, like I did,
They turning out soft & naive vs cold hearted

The isolation is a catch22.

Country living is where it's at!  ;)



The day job asked me to get drone certified. It wasn't an easy process. Not overly difficult though. Anyway, they have sent me to a workshop in a beach town. More stress relief! Paid for it too!  ;D
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Post by: badmonkey on September 28, 2017, 03:53:52 pm
Quote from: derived – Just asking out of curiousity.

what profession?
which coastal area?

I work in natural resource conservation.  It's the NC coast.
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Post by: badmonkey on September 28, 2017, 07:49:07 pm
Enjoying the gift of life.
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Post by: badmonkey on November 01, 2017, 06:07:34 pm
Finding the center.
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Post by: badmonkey on December 08, 2017, 11:53:49 pm
An hour's drive from us is a substantial Christmas lights display each year. An annual visit is a family tradition. We have had a pact we would visit in the snow should the opportunity arise. Our snows normally come in Jan and Feb. Tonight we got our wish. It was wonderful!
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Post by: live627 on December 10, 2017, 01:29:32 am
It's 62° where I live. Just throwing that out there.
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Post by: emanuele on December 10, 2017, 05:05:38 am
Here it's 0/3 ℃, it is supposed to snow between today and tomorrow, but I doubt.
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Post by: badmonkey on December 10, 2017, 08:32:30 am
We went playing around yesterday. We topped a remote mountain. Didn't see another human, but still made a friend. 8)
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Post by: badmonkey on December 21, 2017, 05:14:20 pm
Anyone getting in the holiday spirit yet?   ;D




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Post by: ahrasis on December 21, 2017, 07:50:29 pm
Everyday is a holiday my friend. ;D
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Post by: badmonkey on January 17, 2018, 03:07:34 pm
Snow day!   8)
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Post by: emanuele on January 17, 2018, 03:42:22 pm
/me envies you so much...
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Post by: live627 on January 17, 2018, 11:37:26 pm
Never any snow where I live, either. But look on the bright side: low heating costs and no danger of slipping on ice
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Post by: emanuele on January 18, 2018, 05:41:29 pm
Well, I live in a place where there is no snow, but it's hot either. lol
These days the average is between 2 to 8 °C.
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Post by: badmonkey on May 19, 2018, 08:04:51 pm
Good times with good friends. Hope you all have a great weekend! 
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Post by: Spuds on June 01, 2018, 05:49:09 pm
Somehow I missed this post ... me needs details on the brisket, how was it done, rubs, low and slow?  I need to fire up my BGE and make me some beefy goodness!
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Post by: badmonkey on June 01, 2018, 07:25:06 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Somehow I missed this post ... me needs details on the brisket, how was it done, rubs, low and slow?  I need to fire up my BGE and make me some beefy goodness!

I would love to share the secret recipe with you....








......but it isn't mine. A friend did all the prep. My coding skills are better than cooking skills. And my coding skills are dismal at best.  Lol!

If you want to chat smoking, grilling, and other culinary delights, pop in on jeep-owner.com. Some of those guys are grilling fiends! 
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Post by: radu81 on June 01, 2018, 07:29:32 pm
Looking very good the meat in the second photo ;)
I also like grilling, in the last years I switched from calf meat to fish meat. The photos are from a couple of years ago, but I usually grill 2-3 times every summer, only because prosecco is so good with fish ;)
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Post by: Spuds on June 01, 2018, 07:47:29 pm
Its 99F here today, prosecco  goes good with that also  :D   The fish looks great, love grilled shrimp!

I'll join the fun, here are some atomic buffalo turds (jalapeno's stuffed with cheese wrapped in bacon), some baby back ribs and a pork butt (pork shoulder)
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Post by: badmonkey on June 01, 2018, 09:00:11 pm
You guys have it going on! Frilled fish is great! Buffalo turds is a new nomer for me (and a good one! Haha!). Good stuff there. 
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Post by: badmonkey on June 09, 2018, 07:36:25 pm
Def Leppard and Journey! 
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Post by: Jorin on June 10, 2018, 01:42:02 am
Would be stress for me!  :D
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Post by: radu81 on July 01, 2018, 04:21:37 pm
Let's keep updated this topic  :D

There is no barbecue without prosecco

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And to finish all well some branca menta

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Post by: badmonkey on July 01, 2018, 05:12:16 pm
Sure looks good radu!
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Post by: badmonkey on July 04, 2018, 07:31:55 pm
Independence Day celebration! 
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Post by: badmonkey on July 25, 2018, 09:42:20 pm
Road trip! 


https://www.awaycamping.com/index.php?topic=253.0
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Post by: badmonkey on July 31, 2018, 09:55:11 pm
We head home tomorrow.  We are enjoying one last evening with the inlaws. It's been a great trip!

https://www.awaycamping.com/index.php?topic=253.0
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Post by: badmonkey on August 15, 2018, 08:28:18 pm
Dinner at the campsite!

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Post by: Jorin on August 16, 2018, 01:59:45 am
Okay, where do you live exactly? We are visiting the US in september and we can be very hungry sometimes.  :D
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Post by: badmonkey on August 16, 2018, 12:48:29 pm
I live in northwestern North Carolina. Any chance you may be nearby?
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Post by: Jorin on August 17, 2018, 01:31:21 am
Nope. We are in California/Nevada/Arizona. We are starting in Los Angeles, then Grand Canyon, Las Vegas, Death Valley, Yosemite, San Francisco and back to Los Angeles. With a lot of stops between: ghost towns and backroads, rodeo and festivals, national parks, sightseeing, museums, etc.
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Post by: badmonkey on August 17, 2018, 08:39:13 am
Nice! Hope you have a wonderful trip! If you should somehow end up on a detour, let me know!
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Post by: Jorin on August 17, 2018, 10:58:57 am
I will!  :)
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Post by: badmonkey on August 26, 2018, 06:17:17 pm
We took a nice hike yesterday in memory of our first date.
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Post by: badmonkey on September 02, 2018, 10:51:34 pm
Blessed to spend the weekend with family and friends. Oh, and good food too. 
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Post by: emanuele on September 03, 2018, 04:00:14 am
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^^ That looks interesting! xD
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Post by: emanuele on September 03, 2018, 04:00:36 am
/me wants a button to inline attachments from display.
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Post by: radu81 on September 03, 2018, 04:35:54 am
This was last week, is still raw meat, after a few minutes changed appearance but I was too hungry to make other pictures :)
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Post by: badmonkey on October 24, 2018, 10:30:06 pm
A day with new friends!
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Post by: badmonkey on October 27, 2018, 12:19:31 am
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Keep having fun!
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Post by: emanuele on October 27, 2018, 06:10:00 pm
Pretty nice places indeed!
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Post by: elk_is_cool on October 31, 2018, 01:28:20 pm
A shame they didn't disguise the cell tower as a "tree" and plant shrubs around the base.  Darn thing sticks out like a sore thumb.  Really nice pics BTW Badmonkey
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Post by: badmonkey on October 31, 2018, 04:12:26 pm
Quote from: elk_is_cool –
Quote from: badmonkey – A day with new friends!
  A shame they didn't disguise the cell tower as a "tree" and plant shrubs around the base.  Darn thing sticks out like a sore thumb.  Really nice pics BTW Badmonkey
 
 Thanks elk. We are slowly receiving disguised towers. You're right, they do stick out! Most of them do anyway. This one in particular is so secluded it would only be visible from above. Truly it's one of the few though.
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Post by: badmonkey on November 10, 2018, 01:36:41 pm
We are enroute to visit an old friend with cancer. While there is a solumn component to the trip, we will have fun with it as well. 
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Post by: Jorin on November 13, 2018, 08:06:46 am
Remember me to post some photos from our trip to the US. But I need some more days to sort them out. We made more then 4.000.  :-[

Oh, and we love your country! We enjoyed the landscapes, the traffic (so relaxed!), the food and the people!  O:-)
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Post by: badmonkey on November 13, 2018, 09:43:47 am
Quote from: Jorin – Remember me to post some photos from our trip to the US. But I need some more days to sort them out. We made more then 4.000.  :-[

Oh, and we love your country! We enjoyed the landscapes, the traffic (so relaxed!), the food and the people!  O:-)
 
 Glad you had a great trip! Next time perhaps we can arrange a get together. Look forward to seeing the pix!
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Post by: Spuds on November 13, 2018, 06:08:14 pm
Looking forward to the pics!  Glad you had a good time :D
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Post by: Jorin on January 15, 2019, 09:30:36 am
Still working on the story for my board(s). Most of the pictures are sorted out, but now I have to write about the experiences we made and the points we visited. I hope I will be done with it in a few days. :-[

P.S. I know it is small. It's my portrait lens.  :D
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Post by: badmonkey on January 15, 2019, 07:52:17 pm
Quote from: Jorin – Still working on the story for my board(s). Most of the pictures are sorted out, but now I have to write about the experiences we made and the points we visited. I hope I will be done with it in a few days. :-[

P.S. I know it is small. It's my portrait lens.  :D
 
 Can't wait to see your story! 
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Post by: Jorin on January 16, 2019, 01:47:08 am
It will be a long one, but I have to use Google translator for it.  O:-)
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Post by: badmonkey on February 08, 2019, 10:54:35 pm
It's been a rewarding yet exhausting week. Thankfully there was time at the end of the day for tranquility. Tomorrow it's the long trek back home. Hope you all have a great weekend!
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Post by: badmonkey on March 22, 2019, 07:41:47 pm
We are on the first family camping trip of the year!

https://www.awaycamping.com/index.php?topic=277.0
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Post by: Allan on March 23, 2019, 09:17:35 pm
Hope you are having a great time. 
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Post by: badmonkey on August 16, 2019, 08:27:40 pm
Our weekend getaway!
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Post by: badmonkey on August 16, 2019, 10:29:30 pm
Moar camping pleasure!
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Post by: ahrasis on August 20, 2019, 12:53:26 am
I just added more pressure to myself by coding to secure ISPConfig servers with letsencrypt. As a relief, it seems all are working well now whether for its webserver or non-webservers, using certbot or acme.sh, on install or update. Hope the new PR are accepted and merged. ;P
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Post by: marioxcc on November 17, 2019, 05:03:47 pm
@badmonkey test
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Post by: badmonkey on February 22, 2020, 06:59:57 pm
Weekend getaway!
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Post by: emanuele on April 13, 2020, 02:06:35 pm
Ohh.. a piano, one day I'll try to play one again. xD
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Post by: badmonkey on November 07, 2020, 11:46:50 pm
Mountain hiking and dinner.
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Post by: Arantor on November 08, 2020, 09:01:40 am
Looks so tranquil.
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Post by: badmonkey on November 08, 2020, 07:39:55 pm
A couple from today. We are having amazing weather for this time of year.
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Post by: Steeley on November 12, 2020, 09:55:46 pm
I can't say the same, badmonkey  ... my favorite pastime is snowed in, alas... :'(
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Post by: badmonkey on November 12, 2020, 10:16:23 pm
Quote from: Steeley – I can't say the same, badmonkey  ... my favorite pastime is snowed in, alas... :'(
 
 It's beautiful! Nice ride too.
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Post by: Steeley on November 13, 2020, 03:37:42 pm
That's Mt. Rainier, badmonkey. My wife has climbed it, but I haven't - I've climbled Mt. Whitney, which is 86 feet taller  (86.811 feet to be precise, if I can believe the surveyors in 1909), but Whitney doesn't have glaciers, crevasses, ice-falls, etc. like Rainier, so she gets the technical badass prize.  We lose a half-dozen folks up on Rainier every year.
 
Great hiking all around the area, but I stay off the steep frozen, slick stuff now.

That bike is the third in my "stable",  - I built it last winter  from an old Harley frame I had, then covid hit and the whole freakin state folded up like a cheap lawn-chair so I couldn't get it safety-inspected for licensing for months (and eventually had to trailer it to another county, or I'd still be waiting).  Here's a couple more pics of it, including a stop at the Naches Tavern on the way up to Sunrise (who ever heard of a tavern closed on Wednesdays?  :'(  ).  

And pics of the other two.. (it's a problem I didn't forsee - I can only ride one at a time, and I get a guilt trip leaving the other two alone in the garage when I take one out. Don't know why I never had that problem with women, oddly enough.)


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Post by: badmonkey on December 12, 2020, 05:15:07 pm
One more trip before year's end.
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Post by: Spuds on December 19, 2020, 09:27:06 am
Nice !

I was unable to get out at all this year, my RV has been stuck in place :`(  My yeti (well my Cabelas version) is calling for some beer.
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Post by: badmonkey on January 30, 2021, 10:51:35 pm
We took to the woods today. The afternoon brought a small surprise snow. For the little we got, it still coated the trees for a beautiful effect. 
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Post by: badmonkey on February 21, 2021, 07:46:54 pm
Today we took a pandemic break backroad ride. 
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Post by: badmonkey on April 03, 2021, 04:37:23 pm
Flexie says it's a fine camping day. 
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Post by: radu81 on April 09, 2021, 03:48:47 pm
Flexie is right ;)
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Post by: badmonkey on May 15, 2021, 10:25:51 pm
Family time with a view. This is where I grew up. I long to be back there. Maybe one day. Fatt Dawg was sure to guard the table. Lol
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Post by: Zioclive on May 18, 2021, 01:41:13 pm
Wow, Astonishing landscape !!

:-)
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Post by: emanuele on May 21, 2021, 03:03:45 pm
In the current status of stress a similar place is pretty appealing.

/me needs a break...
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Post by: badmonkey on June 04, 2021, 10:52:17 pm
Enjoying a spring evening!
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Post by: emanuele on June 12, 2021, 09:22:58 am
/me needs lots of stress relief these days
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Post by: Spuds on June 13, 2021, 07:12:26 pm
Once you learn to embrace the stress you will find that you can make your boss more money while you can work longer hours for the same pay.  I've been told that is a win win, not for you of course,  but for someone :D
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Post by: Steeley on June 13, 2021, 09:34:09 pm
And then one day, someday maybe, you can relax..

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Post by: emanuele on June 14, 2021, 04:41:52 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Once you learn to embrace the stress you will find that you can make your boss more money while you can work longer hours for the same pay.  I've been told that is a win win, not for you of course,  but for someone :D
I mastered managing job-related stress a long time ago: basically I rely on my luck, things will sort them out by themselves at some point. :P
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Post by: Spuds on June 14, 2021, 10:08:28 pm
For some reason when I first read your reply I though it said masturbated ... hey now !  Time to get some new lenses!

I've always relied on luck as well,  but I like the definition of luck being "where preparation meets opportunity"  Not sure who originated that saying but always thought it good advice.  Its a bit like saying you make your own luck.
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Post by: Steeley on June 15, 2021, 03:33:43 pm
Quote from: emanuele – I mastered managing job-related stress a long time ago: basically I rely on my luck, things will sort them out by themselves at some point. :P

In the Marine Corps we called that form of stress-relief "G.A.F" (as in 'none').  ;D

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Post by: emanuele on June 15, 2021, 05:46:07 pm
Quote from: Spuds – For some reason when I first read your reply I though it said masturbated ... hey now !  Time to get some new lenses!
ehm... :D

Quote from: Spuds – I've always relied on luck as well,  but I like the definition of luck being "where preparation meets opportunity"  Not sure who originated that saying but always thought it good advice.  Its a bit like saying you make your own luck.
ehhhh... preparation requires thinking ahead and prediction and stuff like that, lots of word. xD
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Post by: badmonkey on October 16, 2021, 03:09:25 pm
Everyone needs time away. 
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Post by: Steeley on October 16, 2021, 05:42:06 pm
Indeed... Sturgis was a blast ..
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Post by: Zioclive on October 19, 2021, 03:48:12 pm
Quote from: Spuds – For some reason when I first read your reply I though it said masturbated ... hey now !  Time to get some new lenses!

I've always relied on luck as well,  but I like the definition of luck being "where preparation meets opportunity"  Not sure who originated that saying but always thought it good advice.  Its a bit like saying you make your own luck.

Well quoting Virgil :Audaces fortuna iuvat (Fortune favors the bold)

I usually say to myself :"if you want a hope to win, you'll have  to play ".
Nevertless I play bingo quite often without winning.
:-)
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Post by: badmonkey on March 03, 2022, 02:09:06 pm
Some days it's necessary.
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Post by: badmonkey on September 16, 2022, 10:59:46 pm
It's time!
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Post by: Spuds on September 17, 2022, 08:07:12 pm
Can't tell for sure, Great Smoky Mountains ?

I can see those looking to the east  :smiley:
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Post by: Steeley on September 17, 2022, 08:17:06 pm
It's about time, I was there back in June.

BTW  Fiona looks like it's gonna stay off the coast and gonna miss you, so it's safe to return home now, @badmonkey    :tongue:
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Post by: badmonkey on September 17, 2022, 10:28:00 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Can't tell for sure, Great Smoky Mountains ?

I can see those looking to the east  :smiley:
Close! The view is from Pond Mtn NC. That's almost as far NW as one can go in NC. That said, here's absolutely as far as one can go in NC. Literally. 
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Post by: Steeley on September 18, 2022, 03:44:34 am
Quote from: badmonkey –
Quote from: Spuds – Can't tell for sure, Great Smoky Mountains ?

I can see those looking to the east  :smiley:
Close! The view is from Pond Mtn NC. That's almost as far NW as one can go in NC. That said, here's absolutely as far as one can go in NC. Literally.

Yep, we slipped off 81 at Wytheville and dropped down to Lenoir, Blowing Rock, Morgantown, Asheville , on our way over to Gatlinburg. Pretty country all through there.. Looked all over for ya but you hadn't arrived yet..   :undecided:
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Post by: badmonkey on September 18, 2022, 07:48:14 pm
Quote from: Steeley –
Quote from: badmonkey –
Quote from: Spuds – Can't tell for sure, Great Smoky Mountains ?

I can see those looking to the east  :smiley:
Close! The view is from Pond Mtn NC. That's almost as far NW as one can go in NC. That said, here's absolutely as far as one can go in NC. Literally.

Yep, we slipped off 81 at Wytheville and dropped down to Lenoir, Blowing Rock, Morgantown, Asheville , on our way over to Gatlinburg. Pretty country all through there.. Looked all over for ya but you hadn't arrived yet..  :undecided:
You were close! Really, really close! 
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Post by: Steeley on September 18, 2022, 09:41:59 pm
Oh yea, and if you shoot a couple hunnert miles west-south-ish to Chattanooga and get up on top of Lookout Mt, just over the Georgia line, I think you can look back and see Pond Mt.  in fact there's a spot where you can see 7 states.: Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky and Alabama. You gotta move about 10  ft. to the left of that to see Pond, tucked in between a couple big mountains about 1/2 way between Chattanooga and there...I think that's "Dolly World" at Pigeon Ford..  :laugh:
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Post by: Steeley on September 28, 2022, 09:07:21 pm
Quote from: badmonkey –
Close! The view is from Pond Mtn NC. That's almost as far NW as one can go in NC. That said, here's absolutely as far as one can go in NC. Literally.

Looking at that geologic marker for Pond Mt., I'm reminded of the one I saw on top of Mt. Whitney back in 1970... besides the lat and lon and the date of placement (1903 or something like that), was the elevation:  14,496.811 ft.

I thought they had to be  :poop: 'n me..  nailed it to the thousandth of a foot?  In 1903? (That converts to  14,496 ft, 9.732 inches, not 9.744 inches or  9.720 inches, but 9.732 inches.. ). I wondered what the tolerance was they were working with..  maybe +/- 10% ?  🤪

I love highly-precise approximations..
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Post by: badmonkey on October 05, 2022, 09:36:41 pm
Next stop, Myrtle Beach. 
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Post by: Steeley on October 06, 2022, 06:04:48 am
Gots a little bungalow there on a golf course, but I won't be there till next spring.. we keep missing..  :sad:
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Post by: badmonkey on October 06, 2022, 10:11:55 am
Quote from: Steeley – Gots a little bungalow there on a golf course, but I won't be there till next spring.. we keep missing..  :sad:
You must be near the north end, proxy one of the good seefood buffets. ;D Who knows, maybe we bump into one another sometime...
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Post by: Steeley on October 06, 2022, 05:49:52 pm
Quote from: badmonkey –
Quote from: Steeley – Gots a little bungalow there on a golf course, but I won't be there till next spring.. we keep missing..  :sad:
You must be near the north end, proxy one of the good seefood buffets. ;D Who knows, maybe we bump into one another sometime...

Actually, south, but there's good eats* all over ...  Guess I'll have to post up next time I'm headed from the left coast to the right coast..
(*when I leave here for there, I reduce the average girth of the population in both places..)   🧇🧇🥞🥞🧈🧈🍞🍞🍖🍖
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on October 08, 2022, 06:00:10 pm
Can't get out this fall (yet, maybe, wishing)  ... so shop time is my stress relief  :smiley:
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Post by: badmonkey on October 08, 2022, 06:19:01 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Can't get out this fall (yet, maybe, wishing)  ... so shop time is my stress relief  :smiley:
Snap! Nice work spuds!
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Post by: Steeley on October 08, 2022, 11:06:59 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Can't get out this fall (yet, maybe, wishing)  ... so shop time is my stress relief  :smiley:

I'm a bit jealous  - I dug one of my own up from @ 20 years ago for comparison...(back when I still had the Yamahammer 850)

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My intent was to show a common thread - you and I have the very same white plastic trashcan! (but alas, it's not visible behind the woodstove - so you have to take my word for it 🥺)

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Post by: Spuds on October 09, 2022, 10:04:59 am
I do like how you store your propane tank next to the wood stove  :tongue:
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Post by: radu81 on October 09, 2022, 03:38:20 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Can't get out this fall (yet, maybe, wishing)  ... so shop time is my stress relief   :smiley:
Wow, that's impressive. You have everything a woodworker needs, including a big room. I'm jealous.  :smiley:
I  also have this passion, but it's only a passion since I don't have such a big place and all the tools you have.  I see some nice joints on the table you are building. My results are pretty disappointing,  as you know a circular saw is not as precise as a table saw, a hand planner is limited if compared to a thickness planner, and so on...
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on October 10, 2022, 07:01:26 pm
Thanks  :smiley:

Been collecting / changing / trading tools for many years, I'd say 1/2+ of what you see were purchased used, some were free.  There are some great deals out there, just have to be patient, and be willing to fix things.  I've fixed many broken / worn out tools, but that to me is part of the hobby, its amazing what people would simply scrap when all it needs is new bearings/bushings and a little time.

That table is a prototype, as I figure out a several  details and make some templates for reuse.  Its just pine wood, but its all mortise and tenon joinery with dowel pins to pull it tight.   The final one will be out of maple, and the prototype will be donated.
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on October 10, 2022, 08:01:41 pm
Quote from: Spuds – I do like how you store your propane tank next to the wood stove  :tongue:

Yea, the woodstove was basically useless, It mostly just sucks what warm air is in the garage and sends it out through the roof, drawing cold air in under the garage doors.  But if I took it out I've have to fix the hole in the roof, so I've been putting it off until I have to reroof the garage (which was at that point about 10 years ago, but I can't seem to find the round tuit..)  It seemed a good place for the propane heater though.. :wink:
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on October 10, 2022, 08:12:00 pm
Quote from: Spuds – .
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That table is a prototype, as I figure out a several  details and make some templates for reuse.  Its just pine wood, but its all mortise and tenon joinery with dowel pins to pull it tight.   The final one will be out of maple, and the prototype will be donated.

I know the perfect place for it... can I specify the stain?  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: badmonkey on October 24, 2022, 09:36:52 pm
Yesterday we took a mountain adventure!
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on October 24, 2022, 10:31:33 pm
Beautiful !

Here leaf's are still coming down with every breeze, looks like that area is a couple of weeks ahead of me.  It was a spectacular fall this year.
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Allan on October 27, 2022, 08:07:02 pm
I just put the cover on the pool for the season, have to wait until March to reopen.  :cry: 
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: radu81 on January 27, 2023, 05:29:16 am
Quote from: radu81 – as you know a circular saw is not as precise as a table saw,
I solved this, I found a good offer for a new DeWalt DW7485-qs and I couldn' resist. Next step is to build a stable table saw.  :wink:
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: badmonkey on June 24, 2023, 11:47:52 pm
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Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on June 25, 2023, 01:02:26 pm
I trust that you refer to kicking back and burning the 2x4 scrap after completing the construction project..   :smiley:

But if that's cedar, I could have used that.. 🤔
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: badmonkey on June 25, 2023, 05:04:22 pm
Quote from: Steeley – I trust that you refer to kicking back and burning the 2x4 scrap after completing the construction project..  :smiley:

But if that's cedar, I could have used that.. 🤔
Not exactly. Good eye on the two by. 


I was camping in the Uwharrie National Forest. Importing firewood from other locales is a big no-no, as you're likely aware. You can buy locally cut wood. Usually it's about $7 or $8 for a handful of matchsticks. The two bys were an experiment: less than $3 for a two by, kiln dried (so no pest transfer concerns, and no grief from a ranger), easy lighting, easy storage, cost effective in relative terms, and readily available. They burned longer than I imagined too. I'll call it a win! 
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on June 26, 2023, 01:54:49 am
Quote from: badmonkey –
Quote from: Steeley – I trust that you refer to kicking back and burning the 2x4 scrap after completing the construction project..  :smiley:

But if that's cedar, I could have used that.. 🤔
Not exactly. Good eye on the two by.

I was camping in the Uwharrie National Forest. Importing firewood from other locales is a big no-no, as you're likely aware. You can buy locally cut wood. Usually it's about $7 or $8 for a handful of matchsticks. The two bys were an experiment: less than $3 for a two by, kiln dried (so no pest transfer concerns, and no grief from a ranger), easy lighting, easy storage, cost effective in relative terms, and readily available. They burned longer than I imagined too. I'll call it a win!

Well, I've had 2x's on my mind for awhile lately..   for background, we have to go back about 22 years .....

My house was built in 1973, and I bought it in 1989.. the driveway transverses across the front of the house to the garage (from this view, the garage is behind you to your right), which compelled the builder to construct the front porch thusly..  crappy design - the steps were too long for one normal step, and too short for two normal steps.. and no covering from above... sheesh.

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By 2002, being rained on for nigh on 30 years, that front porch was pretty sad - constructed of redwood, I decided it was definitely unsafe and had to be replaced (the wood was so far gone I tore chunks of it out with my bare hands). Now, because it was a "repair" I didn't need to pull a building permit.. (but nothing says I can't improve things a little bit, right? ..)  :undecided:

So in 2003 I designed and built a new porch and steps out of cedar, make it a little fancier too, ya know... and of course, needed to extend the roof line 5' to protect it.. the "California Gutters" (a 2x8 nailed to the end of the 2x6 rafters creating a channel sealed with some faux rubber crap), may be acceptable in Desert Hot Springs, but not here in the Pacific Northwet..) 😣   That too just HAD to go..  All part of the "repair", you see...

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Well, after another 20 years I came to realize I really should have extended the roof a bit further, since the lower steps were still being rained on and were starting to rot out too (gotta look past my motorcycles to see what I mean..)

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And if you notice, every one of those steps are composed of 3 cedar boards of custom cut size and shape..  no two are alike.

So I ripped the lower steps out, beefed up the understructure (originally done with treated lumber) and commenced to replace the steps with new cedar boards, this time varnished with several coats of 'Innovative' Wood Guard "no slip" coating.  So yea - I'm tuned into 2x4's and 2x6's lately.

I also took my belt sander to a couple of boards I'm not going to replace, to verify the underlying wood was still close to the "new" color with all the dirt sanded off (which it is), so when I get all the steps I'm going to replace in place, I'll sand the rest of the steps down and seal them with the same wood guard. 

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However, the project is going slower than planned because when the weather is this nice, I wanna go RIDE!  :cool:

(But when it's all done, I'll too vanquish some stress by burning the scrap..)



 
 
 
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on June 26, 2023, 01:47:26 pm
Quote from: radu81 –
Quote from: radu81 – as you know a circular saw is not as precise as a table saw,
I solved this, I found a good offer for a new DeWalt DW7485-qs and I couldn' resist. Next step is to build a stable table saw.  :wink:


Those are nice saws...  but you don't have to get too fancy @radu81

I came across a metal stand at a garage sale some 35 years ago.. that, bolting a piece of plywood to it and and a couple c-clamps to hold the table saw firm works just fine..  I don't think I've got $50 in all of it (including the saw), and I've built decks, sheds, platforms, the porch, workshop in the garage, you name it with that dude. Add a Black and Decker Workmate (WM225-A) or similar to extend the platform for long lumber .. and it all breaks down in minutes and can get easily hauled and set up where ever you need to work..

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If you've already worked up your own mount now, post up a picture.. I like to see what others have done .. innovations, etc..
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: radu81 on June 26, 2023, 05:27:22 pm
Well... Yes I bought a DeWalt table saw and it was an an affair at that time, on amazon and other sites the price was something like 600-700e, even near to 800€, now it's "only" 540€. I paid it less than 400€ (320€ + 20€ shippings IIRC), new item without  warranty, don't ask me why and and how come it was possible... I don't know, I found a 5 minutes old auction published at 01:00 AM, I made an offer, and at 8 AM the seller asked me if I want to cancel my offer since he got other 20 other requests :) An used item on ebay was sold for 480€ + shippings a day before....
Anyway I don't have any fancy project to show for now since I only use it for rough works, there are 3 years since I try to finish to renovate my new house,  probably this year I'll do it, but I guess it's better to stop saying this, there are 3 years since the first time I said "I'll be in for Christmas" :( :( I did a lot of work by myself, but trust me, to renovate a 60 years old house it's not an easy task in Italy. If I could turn back time I would consider a complete demolition and rebuild....
I did consider other cheap alternatives, at that time the cheapest table saw was something like 250€ and trust me, it's impossible to make a perfect 90° cut on those table saws.  I've spent 5-10 minutes on the Dewalt table saw before making my first cut, and after that everything was ready to glue up...
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on June 26, 2023, 11:53:04 pm
Well, if you're doing "cabinetry" type work, yea, you do need a "really-good saw[TM]" and a set up something like Spuds has..  I'm more of a framer, I don't insult 'carpenters' by claiming to be one. I've been complimented on my design and engineering, but never on my finish work. (And it's not because of my tools - I typically measure 3 times, cut once,  call it "practice", toss it in the scrap pile, and try again..)   :rolleyes:

I have to ask if you're married, and if so, if your wife is also Italian..  mine is, and there's no way she'd cut me slack for 3 years on a home remodel without making my life miserable...
😝 

Edit: Don't know what you can find over in the EU, but I did find my table saw stand (https://www.ebay.com/itm/134630498972?) (or something really close), available cheap here in the US on Ebay  - apparently Sears/Craftsman made bunches of these if you're interested. At least you know what to look around for..  I think I paid like $5 for mine long ago..
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on June 27, 2023, 10:02:58 am
Quote from: Steeley – gotta look past my motorcycles to see what I mean
Good thing you said that, I did not even notice the deck/steps.  Nice scooters !

I also had my fun with decks this spring/summer as well ... just finished a week or so ago.  It started innocently enough, just replace the hand railing since it was checked and split.  Removed the railing and found the posts were all wobbly.  Looked into that and it was a combination of improper notching, no blocking, wrong lags, and not to code spacing.   It was a Cheech and Chong up in smoke special. (Link-10573)

Welp ended up having to replace the handrails,  rails & balusters,  posts, a couple of deck boards, several stair treads and add in all the under deck blocking so the posts were solid.   Wanted to use smooth cedar and around here that is not stocked,  you have to order and wait for it to arrive.  So a simple paint touch-up turned into a couple of months LOL
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on June 27, 2023, 12:37:11 pm
Oh yea... as @radu81 noted with "old houses", I had one that developed a leaky hose-bib, had to replace it, but when I tried to unscrew it from the galvanized pipe, the pipe broke off in the wall... trying to remove that one, the next fixture cracked - long story told short, a 20 minute fix turned into a 3 week repipe of the whole house in copper..

I like your work.. is that wall the steps go down along actual brick, or brick-faced concrete? (And that's a hell of a flower pot!)

Here's my back deck now - I don't have any "before" pictures, but it was originally a 12x10 2nd story deck with stairs going down to dirt - The house is a 'daylight rambler" -aka "walkout basement" - and the garage grade is half-way between the 1st and 2nd floors of the house. Due to ground hydraulics (another story - the land is glacial till and the property is right on the fall line, I think the original stream bed flowed right between where the garage and house is now),  the deck had slowly settled and tilted away from the house at about 15 degrees, and was yet another crappy redwood construction.  (Cheech and Chong, uh....yea mon..) Upside, my septic system, sitting right in the middle of that fall line flow, works fine - don't know how that's working out for the folks down hill from me however, but that's their problem. Their gardens seem to flourish though.

Anyway, it was time for another [no-permit required] "repair".

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First, I had to build a concrete block retaining wall between the house and garage so the fill dirt would stay put, and give me a solid platform for a landing, then went to work on the deck...

Replaced the concrete block post supports and a little back-door step pad that was no longer in contact with the dirt below, with a 10x50 poured concrete patio (4" thick, 1/2" rebar 12" on 12" with a 8" footer - it's not going anywhere), replaced the redwood-slat 12 x10 deck with a "slightly bigger" 12x 50 sealed deck, built the stairs and landing on top of the retaining wall, with stainless-steel biscuit-joined epay (http://www.epaywood.com/).
BTW, the deck is not connected to the house by a header board, but directly to the house framing joists.. (a code no-no, I'm told), but if it ever comes down it's got to bring the whole second story with it so I'm not exactly worried about it..  (which reminds me - again - I have to 'earthquake-strap' the main  4x8 support joist. In a good shaker it could "roll out" from under the deck).

Oh yea, and the 'California Gutters' on the back of the house had to go too..

I did that the same year (2003) that I did the front porch, and once I was done with both in Oct., I went in for back surgery.. 😜  (I wasn't gonna do the surgery before hand, no point doing it again after finishing the work - just have the surgeon fix everything at once..)

For the record - I was kinda under the gun, the area was unincorporated county when I bought the house, but became a city in 1999, and I was closely tied in with some folks on the city council and learned they were slated to have their building codes finalized by 2004. So there was a 5-year gap of, shall we say, "lax" code enforcement - the county no longer had jurisdiction or interest and the city wasn't completely up to speed yet. Work completed in 2003, in 2004 I learned that with the patio, house and garage foundation, paved driveway (which I did the year we moved in), etc  I was way over the limit of allowed impervious surface for my lot,  and of course there was no record of any code inspections on the 'new construction,' ('er, 'repairs') but.. since it was all pre-2004 code adoption construction, I was "grandfathered".  😁  (Woo Hoo!)  🥳 
I just can't add any more..  When I put in a 10x20 steel shed in the back yard about 6 years ago I had to build a raised platform for it to sit on. (No permit required for that either, that way..)

Oh, and if you have a sharp eye, you'll notice the stairs, which are 36" wide, have no "center span support" yet another code no-no. But that's another cool thing about epay (http://www.epaywood.com/epay-facts.html), it's so hard and dense, that a 36" 1x4 takes more than 700 lbs to snap - so with 3 ea 1x4's per 'step' it will easily hold more than 2100 lbs. per step. I'm 6'6"and weigh about 250lbs and even after 20 years I can jump on a single step board and it barely flexes.  Anything that could break a step would take out the center-span support too, so it would just be redundant.

It's beautiful wood, can be stained but the stain doesn't absorb into the wood well (and likewise bacteria and critters can't get into it either, so it just doesn't rot). The downside is you'll burn up carbide saw blades in a jiffy with the stuff.. 
 
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on June 27, 2023, 06:26:17 pm
Quote from: Steeley – I like your work.. is that wall the steps go down along actual brick, or brick-faced concrete? (And that's a hell of a flower pot!)
Thanks .... That wall is a brick wall, then air gap, then in that area its foundation block and then gravel fill.  The steps are not attached to the brick, they are on earth pads.   The steps are 4' wide with (4) stringers.  Yup the flower pot is a big one!  It holds all the cooking herbs and various salad greens.  The center is a composting tube the you put your scraps in to decompose which in turn feeds the rest of the container.

I have to say that is one heck of a deck you have there, very nice!  Adding in all those stairs would make me mental.  Love the look of the epay, I cant afford that but like to look at it :D  Say with an epay deck why are you looking for cedar scraps :D

I was going to replace the PT deck boards on my deck until I priced various other options, and then decided, hey this PT looks nice.  Not really shown in the pictures, but next to the deck is an enclosed/screened in area which is where we hang out, you can see that area above the steps.

I think I fixed all of the code issues, there are no more posts that look like this: (Link-10593) That is craftsmanship ... poorly notched (and any notching is not allowed to start with), and then held in place with 3 deck screws, not structural screws, but good old snap when they fail deck screws .. brilliant :bulb:
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on June 27, 2023, 08:09:54 pm
Yes indeed - the PT looks fine.. as for the posts, don't you just love those "hidden bummers"?

The cedar is for the front porch steps, the back landing and stairs (along with the deck rail trim) is epay. If you clicked the epay links in my previous post they link to a company that sells the stuff -  they claim it's less expensive than other options, but that may be cost over 100 years of the epay projected lifespan vs replacing other materials every 20-25 years. Twenty years ago it wasn't cheaper, that's for sure.

Yea the stairs were tricky - the lower one had to be moved about 3 ft. into the landing in order to have a sane rise/run and avoid sticking well into the patio below, and the landing was no picnic either, the house wall and garage wall aren't parallel to each other so there's a few of the landing board runs that are actually cut a little narrower at one end than the other so it all "looks" parallel. However, I did break down and have a railing manufacturer install the railings for me - at that point in the project my back had me all crippled up.  

I noticed that screened outdoor areas are quite popular down in your neck of the woods - we don't have as much of a carnivorous-bug issue where I'm located, although there's been a couple times we've been driven inside in the early evenings by skeeters. I have a couple "bug-zappers" hanging from the roof joists, but those are mostly for entertainment purposessssszzz<<SNAP>>..  June Bugs are really spectacular when they vaporize.. [We used to have a little ritual - every time a bug blew up we took a shot in memorium ... seemed like the decent thing to do, but had to stop doing that.. made the deck sway and the stairs really wobbly..]


Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on September 16, 2023, 08:04:49 pm
Quote from: Steeley –
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So I ripped the lower steps out, beefed up the understructure (originally done with treated lumber) and commenced to replace the steps with new cedar boards, this time varnished with several coats of 'Innovative' Wood Guard "no slip" coating.  So yea - I'm tuned into 2x4's and 2x6's lately.

I also took my belt sander to a couple of boards I'm not going to replace, to verify the underlying wood was still close to the "new" color with all the dirt sanded off (which it is), so when I get all the steps I'm going to replace in place, I'll sand the rest of the steps down and seal them with the same wood guard. 

However, the project is going slower than planned because when the weather is this nice, I wanna go RIDE!  :cool:

(But when it's all done, I'll too vanquish some stress by burning the scrap..)
 

Well, what would have taken a week in a younger man's body finally wrapped up after 3 months..  which included 10 days in the hospital, surgery, recovery, getting the hardware, and "waiting for the paint to dry" (always my favorite excuse for goofing off..).

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After 20 years I finally crafted and installed the stair banisters (the one on the right was no biggie, but the one on the left was maddening - worse than the stair steps themselves - as noted no two of those are alike and there's no right angles on most of the ends - where that banister has NO right angles, at all, anywhere, and had to be custom cut from a single 2x12 with 6" handsaws, hand-planes and wood-rasps.. "file to shape, sand to fit, pound to set, paint to match". 😒

I put all that off because I knew it was gonna be a bltch..

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And then, finally build and install the "stuff shelf" (that's where you put "stuff" down that you're carrying so you can unlock the door), that I put off for two decades also.  It's also structural - it braces the end post to stabilize it so the banister doesn't wobble (much). My high school geometry teacher would be proud of the way I applied "hidden" angular stresses to "buttress a flying bridge span". It only took me twenty years to figure it out.

Radu81, the wife let her Italian out on me for taking so long to do it - she really has no appreciation for just how complicated it was and how difficult it would be to make it look simple and straight-forward.  She hated the shelf idea until I reminded her she was the one who thought it would be nice to have 20 years ago (she denies - [sigh]), and then saw it installed and changed her mind..  Now she like it.. 🙄  (I can't wait until she tells her friends it was her idea all along..)

So now comes the hard part - putting all the tools, saws, drills, benches, extra hardware, nuts, bolts, washers, varnishes and brushes away.. (mainly because it's going to force me to clean up the garage first, which sounds like a "winter project" doesn't it? 😁 )

badmonkey - as I mentioned earlier, I measure twice, cut once, and toss it in the pile as "practice", so I have lots and lots of scrap to burn too!

And now it's time to paint the house..
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on September 21, 2023, 01:04:54 pm
Looks awesome !

I bet I would get distracted and walk right into that center step post, :head_bandage:

I'm still putting stuff away from when I did my deck, gave me an excuse to start other projects that will take years for me to complete.  Its just like I used to tell my boss when they wanted to know how far along I was on a project.  I'd tell them 80%, which means I've decided to actually start working on it  :grin:
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on September 21, 2023, 02:51:21 pm
Quote from: Spuds – Looks awesome !

I bet I would get distracted and walk right into that center step post, :head_bandage:


Only once, I'd imagine.. (oddly perhaps, in 20 years as far as I know, nobody has thumped it yet).
I have seen people grab it when slipping on snow/rain-covered steps, before I put the traction screens on (now I'm using a non-slip varnish, but I still have the traction screens in case that's not sufficient).

Quote from: SpudsI'm still putting stuff away from when I did my deck, gave me an excuse to start other projects that will take years for me to complete.  Its just like I used to tell my boss when they wanted to know how far along I was on a project.  I'd tell them 80%, which means I've decided to actually start working on it  :grin:

You can spend 80% of a project's eventual lifecycle planning, or 80% reworking..

Planning is cheaper..  :cheesy:

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Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on September 21, 2023, 09:16:38 pm
Clearly you have not had one of my homebrews  :tongue: A little varnish a little sand goes a long way.  That really does work, but is a pain when you want to recover the wood.
Quote from: Steeley – You can spend 80% of a project's eventual lifecycle planning, or 80% reworking..
Very true.   The cartoon reminds me of the many PLOAP projects we had to do from time to time .. "Put Lipstick On A Pig" ... Mid-life kicker ... Compensate for a bad product ... :D
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on September 21, 2023, 11:04:54 pm
Quote from: Spuds –
Quote from: Steeley – Only once, I'd imagine.
Clearly you have not had one of my homebrews  :tongue:

Actually, I'd love to..

...  😎... been in "R&D" for 23 years... great way to write off my "Market Research" (..er' parties..) -> https://www.oldecorpsbrewing.com

Quote from: Spuds –
Quote from: Steeley – before I put the traction screens on
A little varnish a little sand goes a long way.  That really does work, but is a pain when you want to recover the wood.

Not sure if that's all the mfg. did, but in 20 more years I don't think I'll be in any mind or shape to mess with it again, so I'm not planning to strip it off. 

Quote from: Spuds –
Quote from: Steeley – You can spend 80% of a project's eventual lifecycle planning, or 80% reworking..
Very true.   The cartoon reminds me of the many PLOAP projects we had to do from time to time .. "Put Lipstick On A Pig" ... Mid-life kicker ... Compensate for a bad product ... :D

Was my favorite Dilbert Cartoon. I was a "hired gun" (certification engineer), I'd get called 18 months into a 24 month development program to "start certifying the product", and the first thing I'd ask for is the product requirements (because that is what all the design and testing has to comply with), and invariably I'd be told "we're still working on those".

Ummm... The certification process requires a waterfall approach - PHAC/PSAC -> architecture -> requirements -> reviews -> validation, then two tracks - (1) design the product -> reviews against requirements, and (2) create verification procedures and benches -> reviews against requirements, and upon completion of both  tracks, test the designed product on the test benches.... to show full compliance with the requirements, and/or capture escapes for impact analysis (is that deviation from requirements going to kill people or break things?). All that is documented in the HAS/SAS. 

I'm so sorry, but you can't bolt the certification compliance process on after the fact.

Did you file a PHAC or PSAC (Plan for Hardware/Software Aspects of Certification) with the FAA?  No? Have you maintained configuration control on the prototype you've been building? No? Do you even have a CMP (Configuration Management Plan)? No?

Oh my.. you either do all that or you run at risk, and your risk just became reality. 😔

"Glad to be aboard - here's my recovery plan. It should take another 18 months to complete the PHAC/PSAC, CMP, requirements and test procedures and testing - that's if you're really lucky and the prototype you built doesn't fill the test lab with loud smoke and smelly fire, otherwise 24 to 36 months typical. THEN I can write the HAS and SAS (Hardware/Software Accomplishment Summary), to submit to the FAA for certification and to the airframe mfg. for a type certificate.

(And no, you CAN'T ship the prototype you built to meet your contracted first delivery schedule to meet "safety of flight" testing. Pray the airframe manufacturer has a production delay that isn't solely because of you..).


Does anyone call me at the start of the project to plan all this out at the beginning? Of course not..  🥱

Which is why I founded Olde Corps Brewing..  "Stress Relief".. 😛
 
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on September 24, 2023, 11:05:08 pm
Quote from: Steeley – ...  😎... been in "R&D" for 23 years... great way to write off my "Market Research" (..er' parties..) -> https://www.oldecorpsbrewing.com (https://www.oldecorpsbrewing.com/)
Those look awesome ... glad there is another brewer on the site :D ... It was 47F here this AM, so time to get some fixings together for a porter and I have a bourbon stout recipe that I want to make for this winter.  Currently I have a Belgian Ale (some may call it a Lawn Mower beer, its light in color and has a nice clean flavor, but watch that ABV, it will catch ya) and a "standard" American ale, hoppy but not like an IPA of any of its over the top variants, those are not my style, guess I'm old sckool.
Quote from: Steeley – Not sure if that's all the mfg. did, but in 20 more years I don't think I'll be in any mind or shape to mess with it again, so I'm not planning to strip it off.
Nods, I know that feeling.  I did a couple of repairs this year that will last 20+ and thought to myself, well that will be the next owners responsibly
There were many of those strips that were spot on for how "corporate" worked.  Can't even count how many 6month projects I had to do that had a basic plan of "we need a refresh" ... never knew just what they needed, only when they absolutely positively needed it.  Just like FedEx, they don't really care what's in the box, as long as it gets there on time.  Some of those were fun projects, and I did collect an awesome set of tee's and polos over the years  :tongue:
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on September 26, 2023, 07:33:21 pm
There it goes !

Sold my RV .. new owner wanted it shipped on a transport :cool: Was getting dark but we got it done.  It arrived at its destination yesterday.

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Now the next stage, get a different one !


 
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on September 27, 2023, 03:42:46 am
Ha, Old Skool, ya say...

Bought this one back in 2002 for $5K

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Got easily $50K worth of lodging out of it doing contract engineering work all over the country ("neither rain nor sleet nor snow nor dead of night..")

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..until I retired, and it was finally just too wore out .. cost too much to scrap it, finally sold it for $500 to a guy who swore he wasn't gonna use it as a rental under some overpass..  He drove it away about 6 years ago..

..and I've been keeping an eye out for another but I haven't come across that "sweet deal" yet (and got too many other vehicles I gotta get rid of first so I have someplace to park it..)

 Anyone want a 1979 Cadillac Phaeton that was allegedly in the movie "Casino"? 😏
 
(I think Robert DeNiro's blood is still on the trunk carpet.. 😛 )

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It's even got a "Dead Head" sticker on the bumper now.. 😜
Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Spuds on September 27, 2023, 08:33:26 pm
I bet that over cab sleep area was either cold or hot !  Perfect for guests, or those who had to much homebrew :D  Good middle of the night "thud" followed by, yea they will be fine.

Can't tell from the picture, but I hope that is an offset smoker you are hauling, its the only proper way to cook Brats.  These days I'm a pellet smoker, but time was lump and sticks is what I did.  Now its pellet's and an phone app :innocent:

Going to have to pass on the caddie ... now if you have a 1970 or before El Camino SS (390 min) we can talk ... or a 58-62 era vet, one of the sweetest looking cars ever (IMO).   Sadly after watching Mecum and Barret Jackson auctions, the only thing I could afford is the Hawaiian shirts the bidders like to wear LOL



Title: Re: Stress relief
Post by: Steeley on September 28, 2023, 11:31:26 am
Quote from: Spuds – I bet that over cab sleep area was either cold or hot !  Perfect for guests, or those who had to much homebrew :D  Good middle of the night "thud" followed by, yea they will be fine.

The thud was usually me (no, you don't wake up and sit up - you'll get broke of that practice quickly. If I'd spent time on boats in the Corps, I would have already been thoroughly broke of that habit). The rig had a 10 gal propane tank mounted (and I had two extra 20 gal tanks and installed the fixtures to plumb them in while parked), and a PDG heater. The roof air conditioner was oversized, and so between the heater, air conditioner and a roof vent immediately over the bed,  I was comfy. (The other bed required tearing down the table, and was only a "small double" - that was the "guest accommodations"). However, heat rises so while that compartment was nicely vent-regulated, at floor level not so much and I did end up replacing all the rigid plastic water pipe with food-grade flex when I was in Grand Rapids in Feb. '05 with a foot of snow on the roof and ground, and water temperature below solid. Flex pipe will expand a bit..  the rigid plastic pipe just breaks up into shards. That was a 3-season motorhome, and cold/snow winters took its toll on her..

Quote from: SpudsCan't tell from the picture, but I hope that is an offset smoker you are hauling, its the only proper way to cook Brats.  These days I'm a pellet smoker, but time was lump and sticks is what I did.  Now its pellet's and an phone app :innocent:

THAT particular shot was a Yamaha 1981 XS-850 triple (Venturer) on the trailer. I bought it in 1981 (wanted a Harley but wasn't going to buy an AMF version). I'd had a XS-650 twin in the military that was bomb proof, so I decided I'd stick with the Yamaha Brand until the 850 died and Harley hopefully got its act back together by then. (Harley bought themselves back from AMF in 1981 and it took a few years before they cleared the AMF influence out of the production pipe. When they came out with the EVO motor in 84, that was the turning point..)

Meanwhile, the Yamaha 850 was built off the 650 twin, produced until 1979, when they introduced the 850 Triple in 1980. (Some engineer got to thinkin they had a 2-cylinder side-by side XS650, and a 4-cylinder side-by-side XS-1100, why not 3?)
 
Well, in 2005 the 850 was still going strong, and it made a nifty tow vehicle (not so sweet in the snow however).  I finally broke down and bought a Softtail Springer in 2007 and sold the Yamaha to a friend in 2009. He used to bring it by for servicing and tuneups since the bike was older than most of the Yamaha wrenches and they had no idea what to do with it. I got him turned onto a group of triple owners for unobtanium parts (there's a guy in the group out in Iowa that buys old triples and sells used parts or machines new parts as necessary), and "learnt him" on "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" (Yamaha triple version, not the Honda Super Hawk). It's still running..  (And if you want any 850 Venturer and can even find one in good condition it costs more now used than I paid for it new and almost 10 times what I sold it for 14 years ago).

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It was a one-of-a kind triple -  I ordered it custom from the dealer - black, Markland floorboards, heel-toe-shifter, center rear trunk,  King/Queen seat - Yamaha will tell you they never made a Black 850 Venturer ("You must be thinking about the XS 1100").. ummm... nope.. do you want to see the original sales receipt?  😎
(Yes, the Pacifico fairing and saddle bags were from the '79 XS1100 Venturer parts catalog, the frame and motor was a 1980 XS 850 G "standard", still in the crate). Yamaha only made the 850 for 3 years, and those were mostly the Specials (same motor, slightly smaller diameter rear tire and frame rake so it felt sportier, much more popular than the "G" model which is why I found a G still crated..) and the 850 Venturer version for the last two - 81 and 82, and those were either blue, red, or gun-metal gray) before switching to the "Venture Royal" in 83, a completely revamped tourer.

Mama didn't like the Harley softtail as much as the Yamaha (she literally would occasionally nod-off on the back of the 850 - I'd elbow her in the ribs as the bike would start to lean one way or the other), so for her comfort I bought the electra-glide for her and chopped the softtail for me..

Anyway, 'nuff of that.. the smoker is on the other side of the scooter, a bricks n' sticks version (Coleman, I think). If you've never had a mesquite-slow-smoked turkey with apple/walnut stuffing for Thanksgiving you've not yet rounded out your bucket list..

But - yours has a phone app ?? 🙄   How about a camera and mic audio so you can watch your brats brown and hear them sizzle while watching the game? "Alexa, please flip the two inside brats and pour me a beer.." (Sheesh, I thought that's what the wife is for.. 🤐 )

Quote from: SpudsGoing to have to pass on the caddie ... now if you have a 1970 or before El Camino SS (390 min) we can talk ... or a 58-62 era vet, one of the sweetest looking cars ever (IMO).   Sadly after watching Mecum and Barret Jackson auctions, the only thing I could afford is the Hawaiian shirts the bidders like to wear LOL

Yea, I love the early SS Camino's.  And vets are.. well, vets.. A childhood friend of my wife's collects vets, and he had a '62 original condition - fun car but I'm not fond of scooting around feeling like I'm driving a 360 HP go-cart scraping my hemorrhoids over the asphalt. The wife has a 74 Porsche 914 that gives me pretty much the same pucker-factor..
The cop that pulled me over on 101 gave me a ticket for 100+ (yes kiddies, that mph, not kph) in the Porsche. I asked him WTF? since I was in heavy traffic doing 55mph when I saw him on the side of the highway before he pulled out and pulled me over - he told me the airplane had been tracking me and the vet I was playing 'cat-n-mouse' with since Goleta 80 miles behind us.. 😯  (I'd passed the vet on the side of the road chatting with a CHP about 4 miles back.. I'd giggled too soon..)

Turned out the judge had a 911 Carrera and only fined me for 90+ ("the aircraft aren't that accurate") or I'd have gotten a 'reckless' and lost my license..  😌  Don't know what happened with the Corvette pilot.. But yes, they are all expensive.. to buy, to own and maintain, to pay the fines..


[Edit: Oh yea, the 1969 Chevelle Malibu shown in my avatar is a 425 ci Yanko SS (replica - there were only 99 Yanko's created, so this one is numbered #100 on the firewall  .. when I bought it, it was a wrecked 250 ci in-line 6-cylinder with a 2-speed column-shifting powerglide transmission 'granny-mobeeal' - THIS is how the poor thing WANTED to leave Detroit..). Anyway, it was, like your RV,  similarly loaded up and shipped, to its new owner down in Florida..  which was originally the intended topic of my reply before I... Hey! Squirrel!! ]

(Guess I should include the pics here in case I change the avatar at some point.. )