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Elk Development => Bug Reports => Exterminated Bugs => Topic started by: TestMonkey on March 23, 2013, 02:08:40 am

Title: Bugz!
Post by: TestMonkey on March 23, 2013, 02:08:40 am
Just to quick-note.

1/ Ban: try it. :D

2/ Junk yard (recycled thingie): is not set as read after you read it.

3/ Quick mod... but I don't know what atm, perhaps move or some other operation with topics.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: TestMonkey on March 23, 2013, 02:11:45 am
Oh, and the position of the moderator report link, reported by Arantor. No matter how many times I knew it was there, I even couldn't find it when I looked for it!
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Spuds on March 23, 2013, 02:40:53 am
Wrote this one up ... feel free to do the others :)

https://github.com/elkarte/Elkarte/issues/256
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Spuds on March 23, 2013, 02:43:38 am
Oh, and the position of the moderator report link, reported by Arantor. No matter how many times I knew it was there, I even couldn't find it when I looked for it!
So the "report to moderator" text in the pulldown is to hidden? .... do we want it back in the post or other spot ....  bold with an icon ... not sure what folks would like to see on that one so looking for some suggestions :)
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: The Craw on March 23, 2013, 05:17:17 am

Oh, and the position of the moderator report link, reported by Arantor. No matter how many times I knew it was there, I even couldn't find it when I looked for it!
So the "report to moderator" text in the pulldown is to hidden? .... do we want it back in the post or other spot ....  bold with an icon ... not sure what folks would like to see on that one so looking for some suggestions :)


Maybe on the bottom right of each post, next to the "Quote" button would be good.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: TestMonkey on March 23, 2013, 05:30:57 am
The link text can be only "Report" or "Report post". Shorter, less space taken, still clear I think.


[off-topic: quick-edit test.]
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Arantor on March 23, 2013, 05:56:02 am
We went with just 'report' with a snazzy icon, in our case we snuck a little menu in on each post, quote and modify have due prominence but stuff like report/warn/ignore user are in the mini-menu.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: The Craw on March 23, 2013, 05:59:26 pm

We went with just 'report' with a snazzy icon, in our case we snuck a little menu in on each post, quote and modify have due prominence but stuff like report/warn/ignore user are in the mini-menu.

This sounds like the way to go. Or something similar, so it's not a direct copy.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Arantor on March 23, 2013, 06:38:50 pm
Eh, go nuts. It's not like there aren't screenshots of what I did on there... http://wedge.org/pub/feats/8000/miscellaneous-wip-screenshots/msg287131/#msg287131 for example has one.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Antechinus on March 24, 2013, 09:33:45 pm
If you're going to put the report link under the "More" button (I think that is the plan, correct me if I'm wrong) then it would make sense to chuck the other stuff like IP and warning there too.

ETA: Oh and one handy little mod for SMF is having a ban link in the poster info area. Suggest adding that as default for Elk.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Arantor on March 24, 2013, 11:09:42 pm
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If you're going to put the report link under the "More" button (I think that is the plan, correct me if I'm wrong) then it would make sense to chuck the other stuff like IP and warning there too.

We put the warning stuff there too. IP address is under the poster's mini menu but only people who can ban can see that, and in our case, the ban system got... um... overhauled. Any per-member punishments should be done through the warning system for us.

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ETA: Oh and one handy little mod for SMF is having a ban link in the poster info area. Suggest adding that as default for Elk.

The problem with that is it promotes trigger-happy admins who are far too ready with the banhammer.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: IchBin on March 25, 2013, 06:33:24 pm

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ETA: Oh and one handy little mod for SMF is having a ban link in the poster info area. Suggest adding that as default for Elk.

The problem with that is it promotes trigger-happy admins who are far too ready with the banhammer.

Personally I like the idea of making it quicker. It takes a few clicks to even get to the ban page when some spammer hits the forum. Hell I'd even love a one click option where Ajax set a default ban on the username without me even having to refresh or changes pages.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: TestMonkey on March 25, 2013, 07:44:14 pm
/me points at Trigger-Happy-IchBin and laughs. :P

I incline towards easier, too. The forum presents a screen with additional options next load - so you have time to change your mind or just click. Trying to prevent/make harder for people to do what they want on their forum doesn't seem to actually solve anything, IMHO, only makes it more time-consuming to do what they'd do anyway.
/2c, no strong preferences.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Arantor on March 25, 2013, 08:51:26 pm
Here's the thing: you're talking about banning spammers, but would you not be inclined to discourage spammers from even getting to post spam in the first place, thus limiting the need to ban.

I've always seen banning as a last-resort rather than a first line of defence against things.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Antechinus on March 26, 2013, 01:40:03 am
Oh sure, it's a last resort, but it's still a useful thing to have in reserve. When you do want it, I can't see the point of making access more difficult. If the admin is a loony with the banhammer, the site is probably doomed anyway. People tend to vote with their feet when admins don't behave in a reasonable manner.
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: The Craw on March 26, 2013, 10:51:49 pm
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ETA: Oh and one handy little mod for SMF is having a ban link in the poster info area. Suggest adding that as default for Elk.
The problem with that is it promotes trigger-happy admins who are far too ready with the banhammer.

True, but that sounds like a personal problem. IMO, making the feature harder to use isn't gonna save a forum from a trigger happy, admin with a superiority complex. :P
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Arantor on March 26, 2013, 10:52:53 pm
No, I'm not saying making it any harder, I'm just saying don't make it any easier... ;)
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: emanuele on March 16, 2014, 12:28:09 am
I have no idea what the original report was about, so I'm leaning toward assuming it has been fixed "at some point". O:-)
Someone should test it, right? :P
Title: Re: Bugz!
Post by: Spuds on March 16, 2014, 01:15:40 am
The original issue was fixed for sure, not sure anything else was done with the follow on suggestions, but not sure there was any direction vs just chitta-chat anyway.