General => Chit Chat => Topic started by: Chara from Undertale on July 26, 2017, 11:26:19 am
Title: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Chara from Undertale on July 26, 2017, 11:26:19 am
It says "it may have been temporarily down or moved permanently to a new web address".
That doesn't seem to be good...
/me changed the topic's subject. At first Chara was wondering why simpleportal.net seemed to be down. Right now that's no longer the case, but the new topic title is way better for the following discussion.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: McFly on July 26, 2017, 01:43:35 pm
I was there just last week. But the last few days it looks like an server error (index.php-file to download) and now: server not found. Perhaps they're fixing? :-\
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: emanuele on July 26, 2017, 02:37:54 pm
Looks like a technical issue, the admin has been contacted. :)
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Chara from Undertale on July 29, 2017, 11:07:40 pm
Also, what did I ever do to get kicked out of there? Am I a spammer?!
Yeesh... Just when I was dreaming to be a project manager there...
My dream has been crushed.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: radu81 on July 30, 2017, 03:40:52 am
I don't know what happened, but you can't pretend to became a project manager without contributing first to the project
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Chara from Undertale on July 30, 2017, 09:58:37 am
Quote from: radu81 – I don't know what happened, but you can't pretend to became a project manager without contributing first to the project
...
Okay, you're just being sarcastic. I just want to be a project manager of something. But apparently, SimplePortal banned me, so they must think that it's too much to ask. I didn't ask to be banned. I just asked to be a project manager. That's all.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: emanuele on July 30, 2017, 11:34:17 am
I start saying I'm not being sarcastic, just to clean up all the doubts. I'm going to be rather serious.
I'm not sure if there is a language barrier here (I'm not a native English speaker, so I may get things wrong at times), but let's start defining things.
QuoteProject manager: the person in overall charge of the planning and execution of a particular project.
So, to me it's a rather important role, it's basically who drives the project. You arrives in a project, day 1 (maybe day 2, but it doesn't change that much) and state "I want to become project manager".
As far as I know "want" can be multiple things, but usually I use it when I actually want something, not when I wish to have something. So somehow a definitive statement.
Now, people have different opinions, and ways to deal with stuff, but consider if I arrive to your project you have spent hours, days, years of work on, and I say "Please step aside, your project belongs to me". Would you agree to that request? Or would just say "Are you sure you are not out of your mind?".
This is more or less the reaction you can expect going to a project and asking to be a project manager.
Now, if you were to say something like "I wish one day to become SP project manager", then it would sound a bit better: the people reading it would think "okay, s/he is young but is deeply interested in the project up to wish to be able to reach a leading role, cool!". But a sharp statement "I want to be a project manager"... well, it's a bit difficult to be seriously considered.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Chara from Undertale on July 30, 2017, 12:13:55 pm
Quote from: emanuele – I start saying I'm not being sarcastic, just to clean up all the doubts. I'm going to be rather serious.
I'm not sure if there is a language barrier here (I'm not a native English speaker, so I may get things wrong at times), but let's start defining things.
QuoteProject manager: the person in overall charge of the planning and execution of a particular project.
So, to me it's a rather important role, it's basically who drives the project. You arrives in a project, day 1 (maybe day 2, but it doesn't change that much) and state "I want to become project manager".
As far as I know "want" can be multiple things, but usually I use it when I actually want something, not when I wish to have something. So somehow a definitive statement.
Now, people have different opinions, and ways to deal with stuff, but consider if I arrive to your project you have spent hours, days, years of work on, and I say "Please step aside, your project belongs to me". Would you agree to that request? Or would just say "Are you sure you are not out of your mind?".
This is more or less the reaction you can expect going to a project and asking to be a project manager.
Now, if you were to say something like "I wish one day to become SP project manager", then it would sound a bit better: the people reading it would think "okay, s/he is young but is deeply interested in the project up to wish to be able to reach a leading role, cool!". But a sharp statement "I want to be a project manager"... well, it's a bit difficult to be seriously considered.
Okay... I wished one day to be a Project Manager of SimplePortal and its community. But then I got banned...
This is why I wanted to stay on SimplePortal's community.
So I could wish one day to be a project manager.
But what did I get instead?
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Jorin on July 31, 2017, 03:01:27 am
Hm, you said in one of your first posts here:
Quote from: http://www.elkarte.net/community/index.php?topic=4487.msg32521#msg32521I wanna be a project manager ;)
So, some day you wish to be a project manager of Simple Portal and ElkArte? :o
You have to spend much time on a existing project first to become a "project manager" (define please what this means to you). You need to contribute first. And you need knowlegde of the project, in this example you need to know how to code. You need to have enough management and social skills and you need time to work on the project more then anything else. It's a job I have for many years, believe me, it's not easy and not something you can just because you want to. You must have the "balls", lot of skills and experience. ;)
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Frenzie on July 31, 2017, 05:28:25 am
Quote from: Chara from Undertale – Okay... I wished one day to be a Project Manager of SimplePortal and its community. But then I got banned...
Multiple people confirmed the website wasn't working for them either.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Jorin on July 31, 2017, 05:40:44 am
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Flavio93Zena on July 31, 2017, 04:26:33 pm
Lmao, tbh, you were banned for ridiculously spammy, useless and mod-like attitude posts without being one. I asked for a ban at first, one of the admins decided to give you a second chance and promptly regretted it, proving me right O:-) - ♦ Ninja ZX-10RR ♦
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Chara from Undertale on July 31, 2017, 05:28:16 pm
Quote from: Flavio93Zena – Lmao, tbh, you were banned for ridiculously spammy, useless and mod-like attitude posts without being one. I asked for a ban at first, one of the admins decided to give you a second chance and promptly regretted it, proving me right O:-) - ♦ Ninja ZX-10RR ♦
Ok, you know what? ♦ Ninja ZX-10RR ♦ was wrong. He... He should just unban me. I wasn't being spammy, I wasn't being immature, I wasn't being mod-like attitude-ish... He is sitting on a throne of misjudgement.
I demand that he unban me.
I am not joking. I am being serious.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Flavio93Zena on July 31, 2017, 09:51:28 pm
LOL. I think, this thread has run its course.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Chara from Undertale on July 31, 2017, 10:09:12 pm
Oh, if only I would be taken seriously. Only type the letters I bolded out when I am telling a joke.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Jorin on August 01, 2017, 12:52:18 am
If you feel the urge to discuss this, please use messages. It should not be discussed in public here on elkarte.net why or why not someone is banned on another board. Thank you.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: Flavio93Zena on August 01, 2017, 01:10:44 am
I don't really care man, I logged in here entirely for this topic, that is completely useless but made me laugh.
Title: Re: I want to be a project manager
Post by: emanuele on August 01, 2017, 02:03:48 am
My bad I answered thinking it was the topic about elkarte (and mentioned SP just for completeness), but I don't think this is the best place to discuss moderation matters related to SP.net (despite the friendliness of the two projects).