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Elk Development => Feature Discussion => Topic started by: TestMonkey on December 04, 2012, 09:36:10 am

Title: Trivial questions
Post by: TestMonkey on December 04, 2012, 09:36:10 am
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on December 06, 2012, 07:41:13 pm
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[li]View the most recent posts first
I wonder if anyone uses the option to read posts from the most recent to the first. I find it very counter-intuitive. I can think of the type of topics you never read fully, but those are specific topics, not forum type or user behavior, and one can always go to the last posts through links, for those.
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[li]Save draft misses an existing preview[/li][/list]
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[li]start to write a post and preview it[/li]
[li]save as draft[/li]
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=> I think the user would have expected preview section to be reloaded (or rather, to stay there), and it isn't[/list]
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on December 06, 2012, 07:41:50 pm
/me broke BBC... :(
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: TestMonkey on December 06, 2012, 08:30:57 pm
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[li]View the most recent posts first
I wonder if anyone uses the option to read posts from the most recent to the first. I find it very counter-intuitive. I can think of the type of topics you never read fully, but those are specific topics, not forum type or user behavior, and one can always go to the last posts through links, for those.
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[li]Save draft misses an existing preview[/li]
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[li]start to write a post and preview it[/li]
[li]save as draft[/li]
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Quote from: emanuele" date="1354840873" link=topic="7.msg70#msg70=> I think the user would have expected preview section to be reloaded (or rather, to stay there), and it isn't
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Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: TestMonkey on December 06, 2012, 08:31:56 pm
/me broke quote because of preview...
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: TestMonkey on December 08, 2012, 12:07:21 pm

I don't think it's a "problem", it is (if confirmed) a small inconsistency
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on December 20, 2013, 07:08:00 pm
Quote from: TestMonkey –
  • View the most recent posts first
    I wonder if anyone uses the option to read posts from the most recent to the first. I find it very counter-intuitive. I can think of the type of topics you never read fully, but those are specific topics, not forum type or user behavior, and one can always go to the last posts through links, for those.
mmm... yeah, probably not so useful...
Maybe it can be put in the queue of things to remove "at some point" unless there are objections.

Quote from: TestMonkey –
  • Save draft misses an existing preview
    • start to write a post and preview it
    • save as draft
    => I think the user would have expected preview section to be reloaded (or rather, to stay there), and it isn't
From time to time I expect, though also in case of session errors I would expect a preview but it doesn't come out... dunno.[/list]
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on February 01, 2014, 04:26:45 am
Is the most-recent-first option still around?
/me doesn't use the profile that much. lol
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Spuds on February 01, 2014, 10:13:20 am
Quote from: emanuele – Is the most-recent-first option still around?
/me doesn't use the profile that much. lol
Yup Show most recent posts at the top. is still an option, its not one of the ones we removed.  Still could for final if wanted.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on March 20, 2014, 04:46:38 pm
I was (still) messing with Recent.controller for 1.1 and I stumbled upon this option again.
What do you think, remove it is fine?
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Spuds on March 21, 2014, 09:17:57 am
I don't use it, so of course I would say yes ... Don't know if anyone really uses that option?
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on June 07, 2014, 07:38:01 am
Apparently the "show recent first" is badly broken at the moment, so:
1) remove it,
2) fix it.
I'd vote for 1.
Objections?
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Spuds on June 07, 2014, 08:16:54 am
I had to enable it to see what it was doing, looks like it reverses the pages order from new to old but does not reverse sort the posts on that page, pretty funny really.

I'm still for the remove it as it seems to be an odd way to view a thread. 
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on June 07, 2014, 08:25:52 am
And it has been broken for quite a while I think: at the moment it just reverts the reply number, but the messages are still ordered from the first to the last... and that's probably my fault. LOL

/me whistles innocently waiting for @forumsearch0rs comment. :P

ETA: anyway removal is here (https://github.com/emanuele45/Dialogo/compare/newfirst?expand=1). Just in case.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: forumsearch0r on July 10, 2014, 06:05:11 pm
You killed it!

(Sorry, haven't seen it before. No mail notification about mentions.)
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Spuds on January 19, 2015, 12:29:45 pm
Old bump ... again feedback,

This may have been a mistake to remove.  Not that I want to over option us, but seems a lot of folks like to use this way of browsing.  The reasoning is you hit "new" read "up" and then the menu is there to return to "new posts"

Without it its hit "new" read "down" hit the bottom, scroll/nav back to the top to find the menu to return to "new posts" or whatever.

So basically if you are a new post or new reply's user, the lower linktree does not have a way to return you to what you were doing, so you have to do a nav top to continue, which from a usability perspective is not optimal if thats they way you work.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on January 19, 2015, 01:12:02 pm
Interesting way of browsing, it certainly is optimized.

Counter proposal: what if we change the lower linktree in a form that "remembers" (browsing history tree?) the latest... 4 pages visited?
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Spuds on January 19, 2015, 03:18:47 pm
nods thought about that as well, just add simple "back" buttons to the bottom linktree or other ... Then looked at the bottom and (on this post)  I have 20 buttons to click and one pull down (after the bottom post before QR) , do I really want to add more?
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on January 19, 2015, 03:53:44 pm
LOL

The fact some of the buttons should GT*O is an absolute truth, anyway I was more thinking to replace entirely the "below" linktree with that other thing rather than add another button.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Spuds on January 19, 2015, 05:51:43 pm
Replacing the linktree with a true breadcrumb trail of the last x pages may be cool, I think it could work.  For my usage I simply put back the old option since that was quick for me to do. 

Not sure its a big deal anyway, it just was one of the things that some folks missed, they liked having new at the top  :-X
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on January 19, 2015, 05:55:22 pm
But any hint is a nice hint and I like to throw out odd ideas! :D
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Joshua Dickerson on January 20, 2015, 07:59:45 pm
I'd rather have a linktree than a breadcrumb trail. I can always hit the back button.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: Jorin on January 29, 2015, 05:20:46 am
I would take both, if the user can change between them as profile option.  ;)
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: nwsw on March 03, 2015, 06:15:00 am
Quote from: Spuds – Not sure its a big deal anyway, it just was one of the things that some folks missed, they liked having new at the top  :-X

Our switch to ElkArte is less than 24 hours old, and users are already complaining.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: emanuele on March 03, 2015, 07:42:39 am
I would have never thought this option was so used. LOL

I can't package it now, but the changes are these:
https://github.com/elkarte/Elkarte/commit/589b18ffcc59a551eb2f773fb11ab4344417eea5
actually, these are the changes to remove it, so applying them the other way about should work (i.e. "-"/pink: line to add, "+"/green: line to remove)

If you need help, feel free to attach the relevant files here. ;)
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: nwsw on March 03, 2015, 07:44:08 am
Yeah, I reverted that commit (https://github.com/nwsw/Elkarte/commit/66ae67e54ff4e0fc597b2ab00e2f8c725671f6a2) , and it seemed to work as intended for topic views. Its obviously broken, but it's a start.
Title: Re: Trivial questions
Post by: nwsw on March 03, 2015, 11:16:11 am
OK, this is the fix that we used for recent posts at the top (after reverting that prior commit):

Fix for most recent posts at the top (https://github.com/elkarte/Elkarte/commit/b7bc8d16c5e3aa9558fc9437df17a251632b1d23)