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Elk Development => Feature Discussion => Topic started by: forumovod on October 06, 2020, 01:14:36 am

Title: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: forumovod on October 06, 2020, 01:14:36 am
Idea for the developer of the forum engine or addon.

Maybe you should create private messages in the format of a private mini-chat, instead format of a private posts? Several tasks will be solved at once:
1) Users will not seek to leave the forum and go to messengers,
2) the forum administrator will no longer need To limit the number of private messages.

This idea is implemented in one of the forum plugins WordPress.
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: forumovod on October 07, 2020, 02:44:42 am
@emanuele
Is it possible to embed this in the new version of ElkArte?
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: radu81 on October 07, 2020, 08:37:56 am
Can you please explain better what do you mean by mini-chat?
Correct me if I'm wrong, IMO a mini chat could be a PM sent to multiple members, and you can already do that in Elkarte. What you cannot do is invite other members to a PM you started. If this is what you wand, I'd say it's a nice feature.
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: ahrasis on October 08, 2020, 01:36:08 am
If he wants.chatting, he should use a chatting addon or better, use chatting software and don't use forum software, unless he is a genius inventor or a genie that can make such a thing.

My guess he is just lonely and need someone to talk to, and this forum has a very good loving community.
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: forumovod on October 08, 2020, 03:01:43 am
Can you please explain better what do you mean by mini-chat?
Correct me if I'm wrong, IMO a mini chat could be a PM sent to multiple members, and you can already do that in Elkarte. What you cannot do is invite other members to a PM you started. If this is what you wand, I'd say it's a nice feature.

Real - time chat in Personal Messages instead of email messages in Personal Messages.

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Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: ahrasis on October 08, 2020, 03:39:07 am
I know about this realtime thing and I already mentioned about it in another thread(s) which uses websocket technology.

To note, it is not easy to be implemented, so an addon is the best option if you want such a thing very badly and your server is capable to handle it (because my guess is it will require extra resources which may be more than ordinary?).
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: radu81 on October 08, 2020, 09:08:37 am
missed the real time part, I agree with you @ahrasis‍ 
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: forumovod on October 08, 2020, 09:26:45 pm
It is not necessary to do divination. You can see how it really works WP-Recall WordPress plugin.
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: inter on October 10, 2020, 08:14:25 am
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Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: JesusGod-Pope666.Info on October 12, 2020, 02:06:17 am
XMPP or Birdie is an open source fediverse chat platform. Use Pix-Art Messinger if you are on Android. :)
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: emanuele on October 17, 2020, 07:43:36 pm
The idea of having a bit more structure and proper "personal discussion" is there, though messing with PM hurts my little brain...
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: Arantor on October 26, 2020, 11:02:50 pm
You can't use websockets on your average shared hosting, end of discussion for mainline software.

Can you do AJAX polling, like all the shoutboxes used to do? Sure, then your host gets upset for using resources.

If you want to do realtime, be prepared to either pay for a big server or prepared to manage one yourself and go for an unmanaged VPS on Linode or Digital Ocean. Then, and only then, are websockets even possible to consider.
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: emanuele on November 18, 2020, 01:13:53 pm
@Arantor weeeeell, elk already pulls once every I think 10 seconds if the number of notifications in the icon or the desktop notifications is on, so... the more the better! xD
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: Arantor on November 19, 2020, 11:58:37 pm
Yes but that at least starts from the position of there being something to poll for (and it polls less often than most of the ghastly shoutboxes)
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: emanuele on November 23, 2020, 05:58:34 pm
O:-)
Title: Re: PM as private mini-chat
Post by: JesusGod-Pope666.Info on September 19, 2021, 07:23:48 am
Pix-Art is now known as Blabber. Make your account for Birdie/XMPP on 404.city :) Enjoy.