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Elk Development => Bug Reports => Exterminated Bugs => Topic started by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 05:58:57 am

Title: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 05:58:57 am
I think, this one is since the 1.1.2 here on ElkArte.net

The own IP is displayed like this:
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: ahrasis on March 06, 2018, 07:02:12 am
It is shown to a moderator may be but not a member, right?
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Jorin on March 06, 2018, 07:18:39 am
Looks good here at elkarte.net, Ruth. Everything okay, the IP is shown correctly. Mine and other's IPs.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 07:48:18 am
It is just my own IP, which is looking like this.
I can't see another IP here as a member. Other poster profiles are looking proper to me.

Jorin, are you using IE?

It is the same in Opera and Firefox for me.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Jorin on March 06, 2018, 07:50:29 am
Right, your IP looks like the image you posted. Uh, strange!  :o
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 06, 2018, 10:03:31 am
Quote from: Ruth – I think, this one is since the 1.1.2 here on ElkArte.net

The own IP is displayed like this:
hmm... that is an IP address. An IPv6 to be picky.
What is exactly the problem?
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 12:28:48 pm
The unusual look, Emanuele. ;)

It was not like this a few days ago here on ElkArte.net. This IP has not enough space in the poster info and a break. My IP is not displayed like this in other ElkArte-Forums. I don't have an "IPv6" as far as I know, I have a "normal" IP.

I thought, every IP would be displayed like this now with 1.1.2 - and would not be possible to track for me.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 12:58:52 pm
This is my IP from a post right now in my testforum:

(Link-5629)

And:

Is the hostname gone in the profiles? Or should admins see them?
There is no entry for them in the profiles in my testforum:

(Link-5631)

The same reason maybe?

Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 06, 2018, 03:09:42 pm
Quote from: Ruth – I don't have an "IPv6" as far as I know, I have a "normal" IP.
Well, probably your provider is upgrading his infrastructure and is moving to IPv6:
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/query?searchtext=2003:71:8e08:9690:613f:b72b:3ea4:835d#resultsSection
this is the IP you currently have and is assigned to Deutsche Telekom AG, so... it seems from your area, I don't know if this is actually your provider, of course.

Quote from: Ruth – I thought, every IP would be displayed like this now with 1.1.2 - and would not be possible to track for me.
Nope, it's the internet that is changing... and the IP is going to be pretty much useless for tracking.
Also, I'm not that keen in widening the profile area just to accommodate the IP, at best I would truncate it.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 06, 2018, 03:14:43 pm
Quote from: Ruth – Is the hostname gone in the profiles? Or should admins see them?
There is no entry for them in the profiles in my testforum:

[attach type=thumb]5631[/attach]
Do you have "Disable hostname lookups" disabled?
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 03:16:35 pm
Yes, but I don't understand, why my IP can be different at the same time here on ElkArte.net and in my testforum?

It is just another kind of display but the same IP?

QuoteDo you have "Disable hostname lookups" disabled?

I don't know... O:-)  Where can I do this?
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 06, 2018, 04:12:35 pm
Quote from: Ruth – Yes, but I dont understand, why my IP can be different at the same time here on ElkArte.net and in my testorum?

It is just another kind of display but the same IP?
I'm not that expert, but I guess if the server doesn't support IPv6, then maybe the network falls back to an IIPv4 one.

Quote from: Ruth –
QuoteDo you have "Disable hostname lookups" disabled?

I don't know... O:-)  Where can I do this?
Somewhere in the admin panel. xD
I guess server settings?
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 06, 2018, 04:20:21 pm
That one? Something like  "Disable Hostname-search"?  It is looking like this:
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 06, 2018, 06:08:22 pm
The host is a bug. :P
I have the fix locally.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 07, 2018, 04:55:03 am
Thank you, Emanuele.

I am trying to figure out since days what could be wrong about the poster info and the profiles in my testforum, that the E-Mail and the website is not displayed in the poster info - and this issue about my "strange" IP here on ElkArte.net and the missing hostname entry in the profiles was puzzling me very much.

Quote I'm not that keen in widening the profile area just to accommodate the IP, at best I would truncate it.

So such long IPs like mine here can be displayed "shorter" in future? Would be nice. This break is looking ugly.  ;)

Quote...this is the IP you currently have and is assigned to Deutsche Telekom AG, so... it seems from your area, I don't know if this is actually your provider, of course.

I think, it is not really my IP. It is the IP or the location of my provider (Deutsche Telekom AG) in Darmstadt, a town in the middle of Germany (Prussia), :P  which is far away from my town. My "normal" IP shows always very close (not more than about 25 km distance) the place, where I live: Deep in the south-east of Germany (Bavaria) ;)

A lot of people in Germany have the same provider as I have. So maybe they all will have the same IPv6 in future? If so, it would no longer be possible for me to look, if members do things, which they are not allowed to do, for example, to give their password to people we had excluded from our community.

And what is about bans by IP?  It would not work with such an IP, which would belong to almost every german user in our forum.

Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 07, 2018, 06:53:09 am
Welcome to the internet of the 2016. :)
IP banning will be mostly useless.

The IP can very well be yours, the link I posted is the RIPE, in the organism that assigns the IP ranges to company, is not about geolocation. ;)

The reason why on your website you still see the IPv4 is likely because your sever doesn't support IPv6 and so the network shows the server the v4 instead of the v6.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 07, 2018, 06:55:08 am
Quote from: Ruth – Thank you, Emanuele.

I am trying to figure out since days what could be wrong about the poster info and the profiles in my testforum, that the E-Mail and the website is not displayed in the poster info - and this issue about my "strange" IP here on ElkArte.net and the missing hostname entry in the profiles was puzzling me very much.

Quote I'm not that keen in widening the profile area just to accommodate the IP, at best I would truncate it.

So such long IPs like mine here can be displayed "shorter" in future? Would be nice. This break is looking ugly.  ;)
Just to restate: in my opinion, the solution is to truncate the IP and show only what can stay in the space, anything else becomes hidden.
If that is fine, I guess it can be worked on.
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 07, 2018, 07:14:59 am
Quote from: emanuele – The reason why on your website you still see the IPv4 is likely because your sever doesn't support IPv6 and so the network shows the server the v4 instead of the v6.

Yes, I think, I have understood this now, Emanuele. Thank you for the explaination.


Quote from: emanuele – Welcome to the internet of the 2016. :)

Thank you. :P  I feel a little too old for this. ;) ( it is already 2018 by the way)

Quote from: emanuele – Just to restate: in my opinion, the solution is to truncate the IP and show only what can stay in the space, anything else becomes hidden.
If that is fine, I guess it can be worked on.

Yes, I understood. This would be fine.  :)
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 07, 2018, 09:35:30 am
Don't worry, I guess we are not that far away and anyway IPv6 is out since... quite a bit of time and has been on a rampage since before 2016 (in 2016 it reached about 10%). :)
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption&tab=ipv6-adoption
Also, Germany seems to be the 2nd country in EU for IPv6 adoption after Belgium:
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption&tab=ipv6-adoption
Actually, according to these data is the 2nd world-wide. O_O
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: Ruth on March 07, 2018, 03:35:51 pm
This change of the IPs must have some advantages, even if I can't quite understand it.

Since a few months I have a new contract with my provider and a new router. Something had been changed completly on the conection to the internet (They were digging holes in front of my house and along the street for this.)

Everything should be even better and faster now.
But it was good enough for me before.
The only difference I notice, is that it is now even more expensive. ;)
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: emanuele on March 07, 2018, 04:49:28 pm
lol

Well, the general reason for IPv6 is that there are no more IPv4 addresses...
Title: Re: Display of the IP in the poster info
Post by: ahrasis on March 07, 2018, 09:44:52 pm
Agreed. I think IPv6 should be catering the need for fixed IP in the future. Not sure whether it will be more expensive though...