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Elk Development => Feature Discussion => Topic started by: IchBin on January 05, 2013, 10:21:18 pm

Title: Info Center Revamp
Post by: IchBin on January 05, 2013, 10:21:18 pm
How's about we change the info center into something useful for the user? I don't have any good idea's for it really, but it occurred to me that most of the info in the info center is pretty useless when I look at it. At least it is for me I guess. Couldn't we make it more of a social area for the user to see more things they are interested in? Recent topics of the user? Buddies? Notifications? etc etc.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Antechinus on January 06, 2013, 12:08:42 am
I trim it down anyway. I've never thought it really made sense the way it was, so I just have the basics there (basic stats, link to full, link to memberlist, who's online, etc).
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Spuds on January 06, 2013, 10:00:27 pm
I must say I like that idea ... the info center tailored to the current user ...

I'm not sure what information we have available at that point that we could add (avoiding any extra db calls) but its sure worth a look at a revamp.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: ahrasis on January 17, 2013, 08:10:49 pm
Quote from: IchBin – How's about we change the info center into something useful for the user? I don't have any good idea's for it really, but it occurred to me that most of the info in the info center is pretty useless when I look at it. At least it is for me I guess. Couldn't we make it more of a social area for the user to see more things they are interested in? Recent topics of the user? Buddies? Notifications? etc etc.

I like this idea. But I do not like it being at the bottom of the board index and also only on the board index. Perhaps on the left or the right side of the forum. But definitely not on the top. The information on this info center should be changeable with every actions taken. Different info in board index, message index, display, profile etc.

I was thinking of showing login / user avatar in it too (instead of at the top which can be made smaller and simpler if really needed). And when they are in other user profile page, that user avatar will be displayed instead i.e. with their details in it. The content of profile page can then be used to something better. Like Breeze idea or SimpleWall or something?

Just a thought I think of sharing.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Feature Cat on January 18, 2013, 01:03:44 pm
Do it. :)
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: IchBin on January 18, 2013, 04:40:44 pm
Hmmm... I do not think I would like it on the side. Things get too crowded for many sites that want things on the sides. Would be fine if people want to make a theme do that though. It's likely going to add some significant amount of queries or resources to pull all the additional info for every page too.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: ahrasis on January 19, 2013, 03:24:01 pm
Yup. That idea could be bloat too. And it can be done via theme or mod.

But why want to add so many info inside it at the first place while knowing queries / resources will increase?
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: IchBin on January 19, 2013, 09:11:24 pm
Well the queries shouldn't increase if you keep in on the index page. You'll just be replacing the current info center bloat with the social center bloat. :D  Adding it to every page would mean even more bloat. lol  Of course, caching could limit the resource usage.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: ahrasis on January 20, 2013, 03:23:35 am
But can't we try to limit ourselves in the available queries of the relevant page instead of calling the unnecesary one? I can see the menu is already calling somethings like pm notification. In the quicklogin we already have avatar and all the others. Eg. In display/post page, we just need to call  relevant queries that relates to display/post page. The same things goes to other pages. IMO that won't be increasing any, if done carefully. It will also give a chance for modders to add up something there if they want it. Really, if managed carefully, how heavy/bloated will that be?
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Arantor on January 31, 2013, 02:47:31 pm
It might be nice if there were an option to tie the who's online list in the info centre into something else permission-wise so that people who don't want to show that to others don't have to hack code manually.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Antechinus on January 31, 2013, 04:06:19 pm
Yup. It shouldn't be accessible at all if the site wants it hidden.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Arantor on January 31, 2013, 04:43:36 pm
It always seems to be a privacy thing more than anything else, and a lot of people get all twisted up over 'but that's buggy, it says to enable the online list, I unticked it and it's still there' <insert glare angry face meme>
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: TestMonkey on February 13, 2013, 01:10:17 pm
Quote from: Arantor – It might be nice if there were an option to tie the who's online list in the info centre into something else permission-wise so that people who don't want to show that to others don't have to hack code manually.
Agreed. I had a branch with work on the who stuff... somewhere, but I didn't do this. The flexibility added by this would be a good bit for Elk to have.
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: emanuele on December 20, 2013, 07:03:36 pm
AFAIR the infocenter is already quite "addon-nice" (i.e. is possible to add or remove things without having to touch the code, just using hooks and alike).

One of my doubts since we started (but that may be more for 1.1 or 2.0) is the "main page" altogether. I'm not so sure the list of boards is the most important thing to show there, at least not for registered users...
I'm not sure either about what to show exactly, maybe some unread replies, or mentions/alerts or the "latest events" (a sum of everything), in other words make the main page for the registered users more like a big "info center" with the things a user is likely to do first when he comes to the site. Ideally configurable too... O:-)
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: Spuds on December 20, 2013, 07:44:09 pm
Sounds a little portal-ish.

I tend to agree that having the "main" page be something that is more what a user is going to do makes sense.  How often do they read the board descriptions after all :P ... but getting to their stuff and reading updates, and a preview of them .. hummm so much to do !
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: emanuele on December 20, 2013, 07:52:52 pm
And if you think I almost never use unread replies and unread posts and always browse the boards starting from the board index and going down the children according to my current interest, you understand how twisted my mind is... xD
Title: Re: Info Center Revamp
Post by: IchBin on December 21, 2013, 12:48:54 pm
This is exactly what I was thinking with the info center. Even though you are proposing to do it elsewhere, my vision was to make more important and useful info available to the user.  I like the ideas you guys are talking about.