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Recent Posts permissions

I think it's not a good idea to have permissions to do anything with posts in the "recent posts" listings other than link to the actual post in the topic - that's where the user should act on posts.
Quote, Reply (and Like, Notify?), etc. should not be available in the Recent Posts list,  only be available in the actual topic. 
Observed in v 1.1.x and v 2.x

Worse, it's apparently a logic conflict in 2.x..

In v 2.x, you can't "reply" to a particular message in a topic - the Reply function at the top (or bottom) of the topic is for the general topic, where the individual posts offer a "Quote" (which makes sense) as the reply is going to end up at the end of the reply chain anyway so you know what post is being replied to. But you can "reply" to the individual posts from the  Recent Posts listing, which I think really doesn't make sense in the listing, or anywhere else for that matter....
// Deep inside every dilemma lies a solution that involves explosives //
 

Re: Recent Posts permissions

Reply #1 –

Is your concern that they are not reading the thread, in which case they may simply click reply when there was already a reply?  I know some users tend to be lazy and just use recent posts for everything.

Quote from: Steeley – Worse, it's apparently a logic conflict in 2.x..
I'm not sure what you are getting at :innocent: is it simply that in the full topic listing there is not reply button on each message yet there is one for each when viewed in the recent listing?

Its easy to remove the extra buttons from the recent listing, but its been that way for a long time.

Notify of course is a topic level function as well .. even though its shown on a per message in the recent listing.

Re: Recent Posts permissions

Reply #2 –

Quote from: Spuds – Is your concern that they are not reading the thread,


That is one aspect - sometimes threads "fork", or are addressed/clarified, restated, and if, for example, the user hasn't followed through the reply chain (hasn't read the more resent posts in the recent posts section yet), their "reply" post lacks subject context that quoting would at least clarify if the conversation has already moved on past that point.  

Quote from: Spuds –
Quote from: Steeley – Worse, it's apparently a logic conflict in 2.x..
I'm not sure what you are getting at  :innocent:  is it simply that in the full topic listing there is not reply button on each message yet there is one for each when viewed in the recent listing?

Its easy to remove the extra buttons from the recent listing, but its been that way for a long time.

As you note, "reply" once was under every post in the topic section but now isn't. I accept the logic of its removal (for what I described above, for one), but that logic didn't extend to the "recent posts".

And, if you do read a post in the "recent posts" list, see the reply option, click the link to the post in the topic, and upon arrival, see "no reply option under the message" there where you expected to see (and use) it .. :undecided: 

Quote from: Spuds –
 
Notify of course is a topic level function as well .. even though its shown on a per message in the recent listing.

Yea, it's just cleaner and simpler in my mind to have the "Recent Posts" list a curating list, each post 'replica' linking to the original post in its thread with less opportunity to inadvertently introduce confusion, as opposed to a "separate Board/topic/thread" clone called "Recent Posts" that behaves differently than the others  :smirk:  
// Deep inside every dilemma lies a solution that involves explosives //