Quote from: D.M. – All mails that get delivered as a newsletter eg. a mail that is with the same text/subject forwarded to multiple different addresses gets marked as spam and blocked
That is known as a "distribution list".. that is what I asked Spuds to clarify (I didn't think that's how EA worked, but to be sure), and no, EA sends out individual emails, not send a single email and a list of recipients for the mail server to send it to..
So that never was an issue..
This is great to know @Steeley ! Thanks for the information and all the help and troubleshooting you provided it helped a lot !
Quote from: D.M. – All mails that get delivered as a newsletter eg. a mail that is with the same text/subject forwarded to multiple different addresses gets marked as spam and blocked
That is known as a "distribution list".. that is what I asked Spuds to clarify (I didn't think that's how EA worked, but to be sure), and no, EA sends out individual emails, not send a single email and a list of recipients for the mail server to send it to..
Quote from: ahrasis – A little bit out of topic, if you like, you can plan to build your own hosting with own web and mail server using ISPConfig 3.2 Perfect Server automated script on Hetzner with roughly below 5 euro per month though I know this could be tougher for some but free support is also available at their HowToForge forum too.
Good to know @ahrasis , would be amazing to test it out one day !
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It would appear that the "MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ" button on the index is not marking read. Noticed this a couple times before here on the site, but today tried it 4 times, clicked OK, then even hard refreshed my browser, and they still show as "New".
Not sure if this has been noticed by anyone else or not, but figured I'd post about it, for @Spuds to check into.
This is just on the ElkArte site, since it's running the Dev of 2.0.
Note: After making this post, when went to index, they finally showed as read, so not sure what happened.
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A little bit out of topic, if you like, you can plan to build your own hosting with own web and mail server using ISPConfig 3.2 Perfect Server automated script on Hetzner with roughly below 5 euro per month though I know this could be tougher for some but free support is also available at their HowToForge forum too.
QuoteQuote from: Spuds – 10 hours agoUsing the PHP option in the mail settings uses PHP's mail() function which just delivers it to the servers sendmail which is generally not fully functional on a shared host.
Not fully functional on a shared host, but works fine on a vps with Postfix
Yeah, using a shared host so I needed to switch to SMTP, I can confirm this!
Quote from: D.M. – Also what number of emails per minute do you advise me to set ? I currently have it set to 5 emails per minute, not sure if that's okay ?
You should ask your host about that, on my forum is 50 mail/minute and works fine.
Quote from: Spuds – Using the PHP option in the mail settings uses PHP's mail() function which just delivers it to the servers sendmail which is generally not fully functional on a shared host.
Not fully functional on a shared host, but works fine on a vps with Postfix
Quote from: Steeley – Question - Does EA send individual messages to individual users, or create a "broadcast list" and upload the list to the email server and the message for the server to distribute to the list?
It just does them one at a time to individual users
That "FORUM NAME" is the common name that shows up in your email client, without that it would show the raw email address.
Using the PHP option in the mail settings uses PHP's mail() function which just delivers it to the servers sendmail which is generally not fully functional on a shared host.
Why is that a problem ?? its a plain text message (NOT HTML) with an indicator that there is a link to follow. Your email client creates the clickable link, or not, depends on the client, most do, some don't, some try and break the links.
Well it's working fine now tbh, the links are working as well so I think I may just stop tinkering, the emails also now arrive with the correct from address it was a problem with PHP / SendGrid Though it's not a problem honestly, just being somewhat a perfectionist, it tends to be a tough job doing anything, it all has to be perfect
I have finally set it up, needed to choose SMTP and run it through with the hosting providers information! Thank you very much @Steeley !!! Couldn't be possible without your troubleshooting
The mail arrived accordingly into the GMAIL mailbox and everything went smooth !!
OTay - I found my host's email worked fine with the default php setup (with some tweaks that have been rolled into subsequent releases) You fixed your issue.. now, you're really gonna kick yourself by the time you get to the bottom of this reply.. so "gird yer loins" !
Quote from: D.M. – BUT although the links do look a lot better now and are working perfectly ! There's still a [Link] prefix before them
That is not an issue - if that gets turned into a clickable link, that is done by the recipient's email client. When EA sends it out, it's just text. The [Link] just clues the recipient that it IS an html link they have to copy and paste into their browser if their client DOESN'T make it clickable.. After the 3rd time you see it, you no longer read it (or maybe not even actually "see it" any more) you just know it's there and what it means or marks.. . (I never read the STOP sign, I see it and I automatically know what it is, and all it means to me is that it marks the location I have to stop - unless it's 3 AM then it's merely advisory.. )..
Because of that, and EA's ability to meter the number of emails sent per minute as I pointed out on the admin page screen shot, there is NO REASON for your host to block EA emails (unless there is a limit on the total number of emails sent per month, per week, whatever..) The mail server doesn't know if the same message is sent in 10 separate emails to 10 separate addresses, or each of those 10 recipients gets a unique message.
And so, there never was a reason to deal with sendgrid ... at all.
Now if your forum traffic gets to the point where you start annoying your host, that is typically a good problem to have, and at that point monetize your forum and get a different host!
But don't feel too bad, I was trying to use another forum package before elkarte that I spent 6 months setting up only to discover after it was all configured so I could run a critical function I needed integrating with a different platform, (that only it handled natively) that the function had a bug that rendered that function useless, and that the developers had no inclination to fix. Everything I'd done up to that point setting up so I could test that out, and then troubleshooting the problem and isolating it to the package and not something I'd done wrong, all of it was a complete total waste of my time. I switched to ElkArte and had it up, configured, and running in less than two weeks and then found a work-around for interfacing with the platform that drove my selection of the first package..
(And then in accordance with the universal law of infinite perversity, the platform I was trying to coordinate with that drove the need for that forum package I'd spent 6 months setting up, went and shut down several months later, making everything about that requirement totally irrelevant even if I had managed to make it work).
Now, if that makes you feel any better at all.. yea, "it could be worse"..
Glad it's working now..
Lesson: Burn the bridges when you get to 'em.. otherwise you may discover you burned them too hastily and all you did was waste precious fuel and a damn good match.
My hosting provider told me: All mails that get delivered as a newsletter eg. a mail that is with the same text/subject forwarded to multiple different addresses gets marked as spam and blocked
I am not sure if that is the case for the Newsletter on ElkArte regarding Notification emails and the actual daily, weekly and monthly newsletter ? Do those emails get sent one by one separately to each registered email address or is it more of a mass email as one single email marked for multiple recipients ? That would be very helpful information to know
As I said the registration/reset password and other emails are working fine now with clickable links so that's very refreshing
Though I am thinking about disabling the Newsletter , notification and the Daily/Weekly/Monthly emails if the mails get sent as stated above, to avoid getting blocked for spam mailing
Also what number of emails per minute do you advise me to set ? I currently have it set to 5 emails per minute, not sure if that's okay ?
although the links do look a lot better now and are working perfectly ! There's still a [Link] prefix before them 
